Winrate for AKo

[stinkpaw]

What is your winrate for AKo in PTBB/Hand? Please include the # of AKo hands and full-ring or 6max.

The reason I'm asking is mine is negative for MSNL, although I don't have a ton of AKo hand yet at MS. But I have noticed at these levels much more floating c-bets and players not willing to pay off to TPTK when I do hit the flop. So am wondering in general if the value of AKo goes down in MS.

Also curious if you think AKo starts going up in value in the when you get to the higher MS levels as there is more light 3-betting.

[Praetor]

100

[fitnessfreak]

AKo and AKs are my two biggest losing hands this month...that is all.

[SEABEAST]

"all of them" ldo

[LearnedfromTV]

You need a really big sample for this question to be worth asking. My current db only has 25k hands, so I've got 229 AKo's for $90 profit, and 75 AKs for ~$1100. It's not like the difference is from making a bunch of flushes.

I'd guess you need a several hundred thousand hand db to make this question worthwhile. A 50k db includes ~ 10k hands that are actually played, so accuracy of a 50k hand winrate is probably roughly equivalent to a specific unsuited ~ 100vpip hand after 900k hands.

edit: this isn't really correct, because the way your equity develops over the streets is different for different hands, and different hands are played more or less aggressively with thinner/wider equity edges, all of which means some hands would converge to a winrate faster than others.

Low pocket pairs would converge much faster than anything else, e.g., since most of the money you wager with them is in a low variance situation.

It's probably a good enough estimate though.

[ogdundar]

AK is a monster no matter what level and you should have good winrates with it. But you do have to play it differently according to levels of aggression (especially how often you are willing to stack off preflop with it).

Don't have my DB here so don't know winrate.

[jfish]

over past 117k hands at 2/4-10/20 6m, its 0.81ptbb/hand. but AKs is a smaller winner, so im guessing youd need an enormous db to calculate this.

[yabastid]

over 89k hands of 1/2 and 2/4

AKo= 0.94
AKs= 1.85

[friend_]

Total -134K hands from 200NL to 1000NL, Party Poker + a bit Prima (with good table selection), AKo winrate - 0.86PTBB/100, it is the seventh place after AA,QQ,KK,AQs,TT,JJ and J8s(i dont know why [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]).
By total profit it is the fourth place after AA,QQ and KK.