J8s flopped nice

orange · #1 10-14-2007, 07:13 PM

Notice stacks. Villans are tards.

Opener (UTG in the main hand) is a poor player. He's passive and plays very strange. Here is a hand I played vs. the opening villan:

(PF was misclick, he is CO and mucked J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img])

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
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Stack sizes:
orange: $411.10
UTG+1: $287.50
CO: $427.50
Button: $453.30
SB: $128
BB: $92.50

Pre-flop: (6 players) orange is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
orange raises to $4, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($17, 4 players)
BB checks, orange bets $17, CO calls, 2 folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($51, 2 players)
orange bets $49, CO calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($149, 2 players)
orange bets $110, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: $369
orange Shows As 10s
villan mucks J9o no spade

So he's not very good and peels lightly.

The cold caller (Button in main hand) is not good either. He is actually the main villan and is super super aggro. He is like 80/30 over a small sample and doesnt ever fold. He was my target on another table. Here is a hand I played vs. him on another table: (He is CO):

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $236.46
Button: $290
SB: $402.25
orange: $476.02

Pre-flop: (4 players) orange is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Button raises to $8, SB folds, orange calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($17, 2 players)
orange bets $12, Button calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($41, 2 players)
orange bets $30, Button calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($101, 2 players)
orange bets $70, Button calls.

Results:
Final pot: $241
orange Shows Qd Kd
Villan mucks Q8o

and here is one more hand vs. previous villan on the other table- as stated earlier, he never folds:

MP miniraises pf, villan re-miniraises to $8, MP calls. Flop J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], MP bets $10, villan's miniraises $20, MP calls. turn 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] MP check/calls villan's $30 bet. river J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] MP check/calls villan's $55 bet and wins with QJ against villan's K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

hand in question: Hero has been playing fairly taggy, really not too loose of an image. I doubt these guys are noticing, but I'm trying to isoraise both.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
4 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $349.90
Button: $350.95
orange: $664.05
BB: $169.45

Pre-flop: (4 players) orange is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to $6, Button calls, orange calls, BB folds.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($20, 3 players)
orange bets $20, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($80, 3 players)
orange bets $60, UTG folds, Button calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($200, 2 players)
orange bets $120, Button raises to $240, orange calls.

is it standard? how do you play other streets? do you like c/r-ing the flop due to relative position? do you like c/c-ing the turn ever? how about the river, easy shove or call? thanks.

wdead · #2 10-14-2007, 07:16 PM

Looks good. Orange, what are your thoughts on c.r the turn? C.C? Are you folding to a raise on the turn?

orange · #3 10-14-2007, 07:18 PM

I don't really like c/r as much on the turn. I think that c/c is better- I'll still get paid if I hit and I have like...0 FE when I do c/r a blank turn.

pdoran10 · #4 10-14-2007, 07:18 PM

This seems to be a pretty standard call. he hasn't been showing any aggression with one pair. i think its unlikely he has just trips 4s, so i think his range consists mostly of flushes and occasionally slowplayed sets that filled up (unlikely), some flushes we beat, some we dont so i call.

othewise, line looks good.

ofishstix · #5 10-14-2007, 09:05 PM

i think the j8s hand looks well played. i think your line with kq was pretty sweet btw.

Unknown Soldier · #6 10-14-2007, 09:09 PM

ez c/c turn, you have like 0 FE

ofishstix · #7 10-14-2007, 09:12 PM

having 0 FE is fine if you have lots of equity in a 3way pot.

deaders · #8 10-14-2007, 09:13 PM

yeh turn bet doesnt make much sense when they apparently dont fold any pair ever.