passive QQ in 650 PCA sat

[Bakes]

No reads as I just got moved here.


Poker Stars, $615 + $35 NL Hold'em Tournament, 100/200 Blinds, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: 3,352
CO: 7,652
BTN: 6,301
Hero (SB): 14,800
BB: 12,556
UTG: 9,135
UTG+1: 19,275
MP1: 4,990

Pre-Flop: (300) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to 600</font>, 4 folds, Hero calls 500, BB folds

Flop: (1,400) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets 1,000</font>, Hero calls 1,000

Turn: (3,400) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets 1,400</font>, Hero calls 1,400

River: (6,200) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG+1 bets 2,000</font>, Hero calls 2,000

[adanthar]

since this is a sat and they are prolly playing accordingly I think you need to find a fold somewhere.

[NoahSD]

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since this is a sat and they are prolly playing accordingly I think you need to find a fold somewhere.

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I hate it when people say [censored] like this. Don't mean to single out adanthar, but these posts are retarded. This forum is about what specific plays to make on specific streets in poker hands. Vague answers like "find a fold somewhere" are about as helpful as "I'd rather have xx here."

I like OP's play.

[adanthar]

noah, when I say that (rarely) it's because I think "fold flop/fold turn/fold river" are about equal. well, not the river in this case, I guess - I don't think you're good but having gotten there, you disagree with me enough that you have to call. but I'm pretty indifferent between check/call, c/f and just an outright flop c/f.

(obviously don't try this in a real donkament.)

[g-p]

river seems like good spot for blocking bet eh

[gobboboy]

I like all streets.

[Stumpy]

Adanthar,

Just to stir things up so I can maybe learn something...
He raised preflop and got checked to on the flop. He made a very standard C-Bet.
I don't see how that series of events narrows his preflop range.

Is 99+,AQ a reasonable range for him?
If so, we're beating 19, losing to 24, chopping 2 (AcQc,QQ).
19/45 = 42%
Based on his bet size, bluff &gt; 40% = call.

On the turn, beating 21, losing to 18, chopping 1
21/40 = 52.5%
Bluff &gt; 29% = call.
29% bluff = 11.5 hands bluffing.

Convincing me he'd bet his whole range on the flop is pretty easy.
Convincing me he'd two barrel bluff half the hands we're beating on the turn is a lot harder.

-A lot of his bluff hands have draws on the turn, and can take a free card.
-A lot of his bluff hands have some showdown value.
-The K turn is kind of an ugly card to bluff. What folds that called the flop? If he'd bet more, a SD/FD might fold.

So can you elaborate on why you think those two spots are about equal? Thanks.

Also, is this really late enough that the SAT part plays a big a factor? BB is only 200.


g-p,
Hard for me not to be a little results oriented, but he's betting so tiny on the turn, hard to block for less than he'd bet.
And his range is pretty polarized, so give him a chance to bluff.

-Stumpy

[adanthar]

I wrote a blog post about this.

It's basically because your goals in a sat are different and you are so deep/have such a high chance of making it to the bubble with a nice stack that, if you play passively PF, it's more optimal to give up on small pots in questionable situations.