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Old 10-11-2007, 04:18 PM
ILOVEGRIMSTARR ILOVEGRIMSTARR is offline
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Default Serious Problem

I wanted to alert everyone of a scammer. I wasn't 100% sure where to post this but...

PokerStars name: Shoremen8938
Full Tilt Poker name: Shoremen8938
Name on staking forums: Friggy Jackson

Guy fking rolls me for $800.00 and just blocked me from AIM.

Or Shoremen8938 on PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker. We've been talking for about 6 months, and we loaned back and forth. Recently I loaned him totaling $800.00 on Full Tilt. He said he would pay me back last sunday, but now it's turned in to him rolling me. It went from 3-4 months, to not paying me at all because I was yelling at him for not paying me. Here's the AIM convo, this is one of many, but the most recent... PS: Jason is my friend he also borrowed money from.

Drummer8938 (3:29:27 PM): my bank refused the transfer and it was dclined
Brandon B 2413 (3:29:21 PM): ouch


Auto Response from Drummer8938 (3:29:36 PM): be back later


Brandon B 2413 (3:29:31 PM): odd
Brandon B 2413 (3:29:44 PM): fkin UIGA
Drummer8938 (3:30:01 PM): majority of banks and credit card companies decline gaming deposits
Brandon B 2413 (3:29:52 PM): ya
Drummer8938 (3:30:06 PM): anyways it's gonna be quite a while before i deposit
Brandon B 2413 (3:29:54 PM): UIGA FTL
Drummer8938 (3:30:09 PM): just wanted to let you know
Brandon B 2413 (3:29:59 PM): lol how long...
Drummer8938 (3:30:37 PM): hopefully no more than a couple months
Brandon B 2413 (3:30:25 PM): WTF
Brandon B 2413 (3:30:34 PM): ru [censored] kidding me?
Drummer8938 (3:30:59 PM): probably longer
Drummer8938 (3:31:01 PM): hopefully not
Brandon B 2413 (3:30:50 PM): what the [censored]
Brandon B 2413 (3:31:12 PM): u borrow that much money not knowing 100% u can pay it back
Brandon B 2413 (3:31:12 PM): [censored] that
Brandon B 2413 (3:31:16 PM): u owe jason like 200 too eh
Drummer8938 (3:31:35 PM): 235
Brandon B 2413 (3:31:25 PM): fking [censored]
Drummer8938 (3:31:45 PM): i'm paying him sooner though
Drummer8938 (3:31:53 PM): because he hasn't nagged me to death
Brandon B 2413 (3:31:43 PM): IT SHOULDNT [censored] MATTER
Drummer8938 (3:32:07 PM): it does now
Brandon B 2413 (3:31:58 PM): [censored] u man
Brandon B 2413 (3:32:01 PM): u lying [censored]
Drummer8938 (3:32:21 PM): hahah
Drummer8938 (3:32:35 PM):
Brandon B 2413 (3:32:30 PM): why the [censored] r u gonna borrow money u cant pay back
Brandon B 2413 (3:32:33 PM): for the longest time
Drummer8938 (3:32:57 PM): might not be able to pay at all
Drummer8938 (3:33:05 PM): but i didnt know it was gonna get declined
Drummer8938 (3:33:07 PM): so thats why
Brandon B 2413 (3:32:59 PM): so ur not gonna pay me now?
Drummer8938 (3:33:30 PM): depends how things go
Drummer8938 (3:33:31 PM): hopefully i can in a few months
Brandon B 2413 (3:33:21 PM): thats a [censored] joke
Drummer8938 (3:33:49 PM): wanna hear a funny joke?
Drummer8938 (3:33:51 PM): in your time of need
Drummer8938 (3:33:52 PM): lolololol
Brandon B 2413 (3:33:43 PM): ??????????????
Drummer8938 (3:34:13 PM): I should have ur money by next halloween trick or treat time
Brandon B 2413 (3:34:18 PM): [censored] u
Brandon B 2413 (3:34:19 PM): pay me
Drummer8938 (3:34:39 PM): ill try my best
Drummer8938 (3:34:47 PM): jason is first priority tho
Drummer8938 (3:34:49 PM): since ur a dick
Drummer8938 (3:34:49 PM): lol
Brandon B 2413 (3:34:38 PM): since im a dick?
Drummer8938 (3:34:55 PM): he hasn't said a word
Brandon B 2413 (3:34:45 PM): i went the [censored] out of my way, inconvencienced myself
Drummer8938 (3:35:03 PM): which is why he will get his money by the end of the month with a bonus
Brandon B 2413 (3:34:49 PM): did everything i could
Brandon B 2413 (3:34:52 PM): to [censored] help you out
Brandon B 2413 (3:34:55 PM): jason bitches to me every day
Brandon B 2413 (3:35:03 PM): about the $
Brandon B 2413 (3:35:09 PM): and how i vouched for u and its on me
Brandon B 2413 (3:35:12 PM): [censored] that [censored]
Drummer8938 (3:36:53 PM): candy canes
Drummer8938 (3:36:55 PM): candy canes
Drummer8938 (3:36:58 PM): come on now do the candy canes
Brandon B 2413 (3:36:51 PM): this is not a [censored] joke
Brandon B 2413 (3:36:55 PM): this is a lot of money and i owe people
Drummer8938 (3:37:13 PM): well jason has nothing to worry about
Drummer8938 (3:37:14 PM): you do
Brandon B 2413 (3:37:01 PM): people are on my back, i need the money
Brandon B 2413 (3:37:15 PM): DO YOU KNOW HOW FAR I WENT OUT OF MY WAY
Brandon B 2413 (3:37:17 PM): TO HELP YOU?
Drummer8938 (3:37:37 PM): lol
Drummer8938 (3:37:44 PM): only interested
Drummer8938 (3:37:44 PM): when it was 100% interest
Drummer8938 (3:37:54 PM): so excuse me for not bowing to the almighty helper
Brandon B 2413 (3:37:41 PM): I REFUSED YOUR LOAN BEGGING
Brandon B 2413 (3:37:42 PM): ONE TIME
Brandon B 2413 (3:37:43 PM): ONE [censored] TIME
Drummer8938 (3:38:04 PM): then i offered 100%
Brandon B 2413 (3:37:50 PM): OUT OF THE 50 TIMES U ASKED ME WITH NO INTEREST
Drummer8938 (3:38:06 PM): and you were more than happy
Brandon B 2413 (3:38:03 PM): I HELPED YOU SO [censored] MUCH
Drummer8938 (3:38:21 PM): ive made a lot more money in online poker cashouts than u
Brandon B 2413 (3:38:07 PM): AND UR GONNA [censored] ME
Drummer8938 (3:38:23 PM): so dont act like im a beggar
Drummer8938 (3:38:27 PM): that has no money
Brandon B 2413 (3:38:16 PM): ur a [censored] beggar that has money
Brandon B 2413 (3:38:20 PM): pay back your debts
Brandon B 2413 (3:38:22 PM): you [censored] bitch
Drummer8938 (3:38:39 PM): maybe in a few years the banks will allow gaming transfers
Drummer8938 (3:38:45 PM): and I can pay you
Brandon B 2413 (3:38:49 PM): ur a [censored] joke
Brandon B 2413 (3:38:56 PM): cant believe how far i went out of my way
Brandon B 2413 (3:39:01 PM): got loans to loan u helped you so much
Brandon B 2413 (3:39:02 PM): trusted you
Brandon B 2413 (3:39:05 PM): and u [censored] me
Drummer8938 (3:39:55 PM): have i [censored] you yet
Drummer8938 (3:39:57 PM): no
Brandon B 2413 (3:39:45 PM): youre sitting there
Brandon B 2413 (3:39:48 PM): saying in a couple yrs
Brandon B 2413 (3:39:49 PM): ill pay u
Drummer8938 (3:40:06 PM): lol
Drummer8938 (3:40:12 PM): a few months is ideal
Brandon B 2413 (3:40:00 PM): when at 1 point u said ud pay me 2 weeks ago
Brandon B 2413 (3:40:02 PM): a few [censored] months
Drummer8938 (3:41:18 PM): candy canes
Brandon B 2413 (3:41:12 PM): everything is a joke to you
Brandon B 2413 (3:41:17 PM): im the immature one here
Brandon B 2413 (3:41:22 PM): at least i pay back my debts on time
Drummer8938 (3:41:37 PM): with a good vocab too
Drummer8938 (3:41:41 PM): youve said [censored] about 50 times
Drummer8938 (3:41:42 PM): lol
Drummer8938 (3:42:33 PM): i dont think how you've acted merits you getting paid at all right now
Drummer8938 (3:42:37 PM): but we'll see what happens
Drummer8938 (3:42:41 PM): im going to play some poker at a friends
Drummer8938 (3:42:43 PM): have a nice long weekend
Brandon B 2413 (3:42:31 PM): wowwwwwwww
Brandon B 2413 (3:42:39 PM): what do u want me to do man
Brandon B 2413 (3:42:45 PM): i dont want to resort to begging you for my money
Brandon B 2413 (3:42:47 PM): but i need it
Drummer8938 (3:43:11 PM): shouldnt of taken those loans huh
Drummer8938 (3:43:19 PM): especially when you dont even deposit
Drummer8938 (3:43:22 PM): and just live off stakes and loans lol
Brandon B 2413 (3:43:12 PM): i dont get loans bud
Brandon B 2413 (3:43:19 PM): i got loans to loan you
Drummer8938 (3:43:38 PM): i know, which is why you borrowed 400 bucks
Brandon B 2413 (3:43:26 PM): thought we were at least kinda friends
Drummer8938 (3:43:41 PM): and lost it at cash games
Drummer8938 (3:43:59 PM): eh
Drummer8938 (3:44:00 PM): not really
Drummer8938 (3:44:03 PM): but whatever you wanna call it
Brandon B 2413 (3:43:56 PM): at least u said
Brandon B 2413 (3:43:58 PM): we can trust eachother
Drummer8938 (3:44:40 PM): dont borrow money you dont have
Drummer8938 (3:44:40 PM): i have the money
Drummer8938 (3:44:42 PM): just a matter of getting it on
Drummer8938 (3:44:46 PM): you dont deposit period
Brandon B 2413 (3:44:39 PM): ive deposited a couple times b4


Auto Response from Drummer8938 (3:44:53 PM): be back later


Brandon B 2413 (3:44:40 PM): i can deposit
Brandon B 2413 (3:44:47 PM): i just dont have tons of cash right now
Drummer8938 (3:45:04 PM): you dont though
Brandon B 2413 (3:44:57 PM): bc i never need to
Drummer8938 (3:45:15 PM): well i apologize for the harmful situation
Brandon B 2413 (3:45:04 PM): if i really needed to
Brandon B 2413 (3:45:05 PM): pay sum
Brandon B 2413 (3:45:06 PM): 1
Brandon B 2413 (3:45:08 PM): i could deposit
Brandon B 2413 (3:45:09 PM): and pay them
Brandon B 2413 (3:46:22 PM): i dont get it
Brandon B 2413 (3:46:28 PM): uve ccashed out so much but cant go buy a giftcard
Brandon B 2413 (3:46:30 PM): and depo
Brandon B 2413 (3:46:33 PM): own up to ur dad tellm u owe people
Brandon B 2413 (3:47:02 PM): wut u want man
Brandon B 2413 (3:47:06 PM): me to sell my debt to jason or something? lol
Drummer8938 (3:49:40 PM): Lol
Drummer8938 (3:49:41 PM): idc
Brandon B 2413 (3:49:40 PM): but u say ur willling to pay jason b4 me?
Drummer8938 (3:50:32 PM): I will pay him before you
Drummer8938 (3:50:36 PM): because of how hes conducted himself
Drummer8938 (3:50:43 PM): i will not pay your debt before him
Brandon B 2413 (3:50:31 PM): bc he bitches to me
Brandon B 2413 (3:50:34 PM): instead of
Brandon B 2413 (3:50:35 PM): biching to u?
Drummer8938 (3:51:27 PM): yeah
Drummer8938 (3:51:30 PM): i could careless who he bitches too
Drummer8938 (3:51:34 PM): as long as its not me
Brandon B 2413 (3:51:24 PM): wow youre very selfish
Drummer8938 (3:51:55 PM): your a rat
Drummer8938 (3:51:58 PM): OMG HE BITCHED TO ME ABOUT U
Brandon B 2413 (3:51:44 PM): a rat?
Drummer8938 (3:52:01 PM): tellteltelteltletle
Brandon B 2413 (3:51:48 PM): wow
Brandon B 2413 (3:52:05 PM): wowwww
Brandon B 2413 (3:52:08 PM): all i [censored] want is my money
Drummer8938 (3:52:37 PM): coo
Brandon B 2413 (3:52:33 PM): bs u sat ther eand lied to me
Drummer8938 (3:52:49 PM): we'll see what happens
Drummer8938 (3:53:44 PM): how about i pay you like a dollar a day
Drummer8938 (3:53:48 PM): that might be convienient for me
Brandon B 2413 (3:53:39 PM): lol...
Brandon B 2413 (3:53:46 PM): $10 a day would be better
Drummer8938 (3:54:10 PM): not for me
Brandon B 2413 (3:53:57 PM): more like $20 a day th
Brandon B 2413 (3:53:58 PM): tho
Drummer8938 (3:54:17 PM): which means no
Brandon B 2413 (3:54:14 PM): which means dont make false promises and guarantees
Drummer8938 (3:54:45 PM): i could maybe compromise
Drummer8938 (3:54:47 PM): and do 1.50 a day
Brandon B 2413 (3:54:41 PM): stop joking around
Brandon B 2413 (3:54:42 PM): pay me
Drummer8938 (3:55:12 PM): im serious
Drummer8938 (3:55:32 PM): ill tell you what
Drummer8938 (3:55:36 PM): ill pay you $15
Drummer8938 (3:55:39 PM): at the end of every month
Brandon B 2413 (3:55:32 PM): LOL
Drummer8938 (3:55:51 PM): that a good deal
Brandon B 2413 (3:55:43 PM): or hey!
Brandon B 2413 (3:55:47 PM): pay me all my [censored] money
Drummer8938 (3:56:04 PM): no
Drummer8938 (3:56:06 PM): that doesnt work
Drummer8938 (3:56:11 PM): since epass declined deposit
Drummer8938 (3:56:12 PM): or bank
Drummer8938 (3:56:12 PM): or w/e
Brandon B 2413 (3:56:04 PM): i bet there was never a deposit
Drummer8938 (3:56:44 PM): probably not
Drummer8938 (3:56:48 PM): but thats okay
Drummer8938 (3:57:31 PM): why dont we just assume im not paying u
Drummer8938 (3:57:33 PM): and make this really easy
Drummer8938 (3:57:40 PM): then u can start planning how ur gonna pay back
Brandon B 2413 (3:57:31 PM): i dont believe u because
Brandon B 2413 (3:57:37 PM): u wouldve prolly blocked me by now
Drummer8938 (3:57:52 PM): idc
Drummer8938 (3:57:53 PM): idc
Drummer8938 (3:57:54 PM): idc
Drummer8938 (3:57:54 PM): idc
Drummer8938 (3:58:01 PM): u dont believe what
Drummer8938 (3:58:53 PM): ?
Drummer8938 (3:59:55 PM): 5
Drummer8938 (3:59:56 PM): 4
Drummer8938 (3:59:56 PM): 3
Drummer8938 (3:59:59 PM): 2
Drummer8938 (4:00:11 PM): 1
Drummer8938 (4:00:16 PM): 0
Drummer8938 (4:00:19 PM): Good
Drummer8938 (4:00:20 PM): Game
Drummer8938 (4:00:24 PM): Sir
Drummer8938 (4:01:24 PM): any last words
Drummer8938 (4:02:08 PM): ok
Drummer8938 (4:02:09 PM): well man
Drummer8938 (4:02:12 PM): it was nice knowing ya
Drummer8938 (4:02:14 PM): have a good one
Brandon B 2413 (4:03:49 PM): ????????


Auto Response from Drummer8938 (4:04:03 PM): be back later


Drummer8938 (4:05:46 PM): any last words man'
Drummer8938 (4:05:50 PM): i dont want to do this the wrong way
Brandon B 2413 (4:05:37 PM): last words b4 what
Drummer8938 (4:06:03 PM): Gonna have to block you man, sorry
Drummer8938 (4:06:05 PM): cant deal with this daily
Brandon B 2413 (4:06:00 PM): deal with what
Brandon B 2413 (4:06:05 PM): lying to me and not paying back debts?
Drummer8938 (4:06:22 PM): ur IMs
Brandon B 2413 (4:06:13 PM): i dont give a [censored] if i talk to u again i just want my money
Drummer8938 (4:06:30 PM): once again
Drummer8938 (4:06:31 PM): anything else
Drummer8938 (4:06:34 PM): before we cut contact
Brandon B 2413 (4:06:23 PM): ru paying me or no
Drummer8938 (4:07:08 PM): any other last words
Drummer8938 (4:07:16 PM): ill unblock ya in like 3-4 months and let you know what sgoing on
Drummer8938 (4:07:27 PM): until then i got other [censored] to do and cant bother with this
Drummer8938 (4:07:30 PM): now any last words
Brandon B 2413 (4:07:25 PM): cant bother with not paying back your [censored] debts
Brandon B 2413 (4:07:27 PM): [censored] you get hit by a bus
Brandon B 2413 (4:07:30 PM): u piece of [censored]
Drummer8938 (4:07:56 PM): Drummer8938: ill unblock ya in like 3-4 months and let you know what sgoing on
Brandon B 2413 (4:07:48 PM): haha 3-4 months
Brandon B 2413 (4:07:50 PM): suck my [censored]
Brandon B 2413 (4:07:58 PM): ya ill pay u back sunday
Brandon B 2413 (4:07:59 PM): [censored] you
Brandon B 2413 (4:08:04 PM): i leanred my lesson, never trust any1
Drummer8938 (4:08:22 PM): your wish is my command, you wont be paid at all if thats ur wish
Brandon B 2413 (4:08:13 PM): lmao
Brandon B 2413 (4:08:18 PM): my wish is u pay me
Brandon B 2413 (4:08:19 PM): today
Drummer8938 (4:08:40 PM): wish declined
Brandon B 2413 (4:08:33 PM): my wish is u pay me this month
Drummer8938 (4:09:04 PM): well you shouldve wished that before you verbally attacked me for the last hour
Drummer8938 (4:09:10 PM): now its not possible
Brandon B 2413 (4:08:57 PM): u don think
Brandon B 2413 (4:08:59 PM): dont
Brandon B 2413 (4:09:00 PM): ud be mad
Brandon B 2413 (4:09:03 PM): i dont get it
Drummer8938 (4:09:20 PM): idc
Drummer8938 (4:09:23 PM): its done
Brandon B 2413 (4:09:10 PM): like u have no feelings for my feelings and how mad i am
Brandon B 2413 (4:09:18 PM): ur fking with my lively hood
Drummer8938 (4:09:38 PM): maybe if we were friends id care
Drummer8938 (4:09:44 PM): ur just some kid i met online that loaned me money
Brandon B 2413 (4:09:48 PM): ya bc i forgot that random accquantices go out of their way to loan money
Brandon B 2413 (4:09:51 PM): and help people out
Drummer8938 (4:10:19 PM): yep sometimes
Drummer8938 (4:10:19 PM): and sometimes it doesnt work out
Drummer8938 (4:10:19 PM): i dont want to do it anymroe
Brandon B 2413 (4:10:06 PM): whatever, sorry for everything i said to you, and hopefully you pay me back, see you in 3-4 months
Drummer8938 (4:11:00 PM): dont run the pity party or act like your not the flagrant [censored] you acted like for the past month, maybe you'll learn nextime that whether your doing business online on poker sites or in a office with clients you dont act the way you did
Drummer8938 (4:11:02 PM): Peace
Drummer8938 signed off at 4:10:50 PM.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:21 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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this has exciting implications!!!

Your behavior did not exactly increase your chance of getting paid your debt. Hilarious.
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Old 10-11-2007, 04:32 PM
ILOVEGRIMSTARR ILOVEGRIMSTARR is offline
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This was after being generous to him, and going out of my way to help him out. We've discussed it over 50 times, and at this point I knew he wasn't going to pay me. I did this obviously to get a confession out of him and to post it everywhere he's ever posted, every staking site etc.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:00 PM
PLO8FaceKilla PLO8FaceKilla is offline
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why on earth would you ever lend someone you don't know personally, money online?

that isn't smart.

let them figure out their own way of getting money
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:03 PM
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I don't know what to say. I feel bad for someone who helps someone out and then gets screwed but at the same time I have to question the intelligence of lending money to people you know only from online. It just doesn't make any sense to me. I'd never lend money to someone I only knew from online.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:14 PM
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[ QUOTE ]

Your behavior did not exactly increase your chance of getting paid your debt.

[/ QUOTE ]
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:21 PM
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time to test you -

Dear Henry17,
Will you loan me $5?

Sincerely,
Bob
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:24 PM
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Cliff notes please.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:30 PM
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ha - you really think I read that whole thing?
I just saw them having an immature insult-fest and decided to jump right into the fun.
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Old 10-11-2007, 05:56 PM
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I'd give you $5 but not lend you $5.
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