Awkward spot with AK

Zefa · #1 10-12-2007, 07:31 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) UPF Handconverter

SB (t560)
Hero (t1595)
UTG (t2150)
UTG+1 (t1000)
MP1 (t4900)
MP2 (t2095)
CO (t1310)
Button (t3350)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
5 folds, Button calls t50, SB completes, Hero raises to t200, Button calls t150, SB calls t150.

Flop: (t600) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets t360 (All-In)...

What's my line?

willperkins · #2 10-12-2007, 07:42 AM

I would have to know what kind of player the Button is? How did he get that big of a stack? Will he just call or will he come over the top to isolate?

If you feel he will just call, then I would certainly call. You may have as many as 11 outs (3A, 3K, four4s, and give yourself one out for a BDFD). Hell, you may be ahead right now.

I would call and then see what button does.

Soulman · #3 10-12-2007, 07:43 AM

Push, you have overs, gutshot, backdoor flush draw. SB is in most cases flipping with you at best.

Zefa · #4 10-12-2007, 07:48 AM

Button is weak passive, This is a 27$ turbo 45 man btw.

willperkins · #5 10-12-2007, 07:57 AM

If button is weak/passive, I agree with Soulman. Shove it!

I certainly don't understand SB's line at all. With his stack, he should have been looking for a place to shove.

Why would he call your raise? He should have been shoving then.

He either has a monster or he doesn't know what he is doing/

Soulman · #6 10-12-2007, 07:57 AM

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I would have to know what kind of player the Button is?

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No, that doesn't really matter.

Pokerfarian · #7 10-12-2007, 08:13 AM

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If button is weak/passive, I agree with Soulman. Shove it!

I certainly don't understand SB's line at all. With his stack, he should have been looking for a place to shove.

Why would he call your raise? He should have been shoving then.

He either has a monster or he doesn't know what he is doing/

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I kind've like SBs line...he should probably be shove/folding in the first place but after he completes for 25 more & gets raised taking this line is better than shoving it straight in {though I suspect he should've folded}.

Zefa · #8 10-12-2007, 08:23 AM

I ended up shoving and button folded and SB showed down 44 and won with a straight.

I guess his hand kinda makes sense although i'd shove pre with 44 after button limps.

jtomon · #9 10-12-2007, 04:58 PM

i'm probably pushing here

ZenMusician · #10 10-12-2007, 05:09 PM

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I kind've like SBs line...he should probably be shove/folding in the first place but after he completes for 25 more & gets raised taking this line is better than shoving it straight in

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Completely disagree. The SB completes and then calls off,
what, 1/2 his stack against 2 players with a small PP
OOP...is better than either shoving pre or 3-Bet shoving?

I'll need a LOT of convincing and an abacus to agree!

-ZEN