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Old 10-08-2007, 07:56 PM
JJack JJack is offline
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SB ($7.15) 51.5/3/0.83 - 33 hands
BB ($55.85) (Hero)
UTG ($94.25)
UTG+1 ($24.25)
UTG+2 ($15.00)
MP1 ($8.35)
MP2 ($36.62)
MP3 ($8.50) 18/6.94/1.86 - 72 hands
CO ($27.35)
Button ($13.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, Hero calls, MP2 calls,

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ( 4BB )
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, HERO ?
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:32 PM
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I would think that you need to fold this on the flop. You might have the best hand right now with his possible AQ or KJ or AK but that might not last long. Plus I would think you need some help that isn't an overcard. Not sure if you have the odds as well.

But based on my pokertracker stats on limit play, my opinion probably doesn't means [censored]. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Then again
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Old 10-08-2007, 08:37 PM
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JJack, the real problem with this hand is ur relative position. If u call, u still don't know what anyone yet to act will do. Therefore ur best action is to fold, yeah u do have a pair (&amp; a vulnerable pair at that) &amp; a BDFD but ur position is what rly makes this a bad spot to call.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:35 PM
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If we were closing out the action, I'd call. As it is, you don't know how many bets this is going to cost. If more bets go in on the flop, you may get yourself stuck in a big pot with a weak hand. I fold.
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Old 10-08-2007, 09:53 PM
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well considering you decided to play this crap with a raise in front of you and only one other potential caller and sb donked it I would raise the bugger and hope I get someone namely 2 and 3 to fold. Then I hope SB slows down and checks the turn so I get a free card.

If you don't feel like gambling any more then toss it. A raise is the cheapest chance you have of seeing two more. Two backdoor draws gives you 2 outs, pair gives you 5 more for maybe 2nd best hand. 6 outs I would guess. 6 outs for 2 needs 3.2:1 to play. You are putting a 1 in to gamble for the free card so you have the odds for the free card play.

But I would fold this for a raise with only the sb and one other in the pot. Especially with raiser having a very tight range.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:03 PM
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I would have to see MP2 fold pre-flop after calling one more than once before I would assume there weren't going to be 4 people in this pot. In fact I would be more worried about him LRR than just calling. Regardless, this isn't the worst pf call you could make.

I think on the flop it's a raise more than a call, and probaby a fold more than a raise. Especially if SB is nitty.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:08 PM
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if SB is nitty i want to isolate against him because it means I probably will get a free card. if he were loose and the others were aware of it then I don't think the raise works and I fold.

Still say preflop its a fold.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:09 PM
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I mean, if SB is so nitty he wouldn't raise without tp. A donk on this board isn't a good thing for 2nd pair with weak draws.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:12 PM
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Yeah I know he has top pair but I have odds for the draw if I get the isolation. I just hope he doesn't come over top or donk again.

Bottom line these decisions are thin edges either way. Best edge you have is not to play them.
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Old 10-08-2007, 10:12 PM
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There are no resonable draws on this board so Id say this is an easy fold given MP3 is often raising behind. Closing the action or with no pfr behind I think I would peel. I give us almost full outs for the 6 and 7 and a BDFD.
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