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Old 10-10-2007, 10:26 PM
TheProdigy TheProdigy is offline
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Default Very weird hand, 400nl

Hey, ok so this was a very weird situation.

Villain is 21/5/6.0, 100 hands. I take this to mean he is overaggressive postflop but he has to have some sense to him because of VPIP and some passiveness because of PFR.

Here is the weird part about the hand: I am running 60/50 at this point, and this is 20 hands in. I've had AK like 10 times already. I have won 3 pots over 200 with no showdown, and one 400 pot with a showdown where I had AQ.

This has already been mentioned in the chat by other players and they are all noticing, so my image is crazy.

Given these things, how do you play this hand? I will give my thoughts on why I played it like this later.


Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP2: $83.90
CO: $239.50
BTN: $478.40
SB: $367.50
BB: $406
UTG: $238
UTG+1: $400
Hero (MP1): $594.30

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP1)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $12</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $12, 5 folds

Flop: ($30) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $20</font>, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($70) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $52</font>, Hero calls $52

River: ($174) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $60</font>, Hero calls $60

Results: $294 Pot ($3 Rake)
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:51 PM
pattay pattay is offline
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Default Re: Very weird hand, 400nl

looks fine to me, river is obvious, flop can be raised but im guessing youre looking for some pot control since you have a crazy image? also, since you have this crazy image, do you want to be raising marginal hands preflop from middle position? im not familiar with 2/4 at all though, idk if this is more standard than 1/2 and .5/1
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: Very weird hand, 400nl

Got value from the ton of overs hands and got a good price for TP from far fewer overpair hands. Like it.
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Old 10-10-2007, 10:59 PM
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Default Re: Very weird hand, 400nl

pattay; Do you mean you think I should raise this instead of call?

The call is because my implieds are through the roof with any and everyone that calls.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:00 AM
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Default Re: Very weird hand, 400nl

$60 on the flop and get that [censored] in. He has 60 BB and you have like 14 outs at worst. Preflop is pretty gross btw. Also, where did the rest of your stack go from the $500 those pots should have raked you in?
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: Very weird hand, 400nl

prod, yes i think raising that flop is your best move
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Very weird hand, 400nl

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$60 on the flop and get that [censored] in. He has 60 BB and you have like 14 outs at worst. Preflop is pretty gross btw. Also, where did the rest of your stack go from the $500 those pots should have raked you in?

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Who said I didn't lose some too?

Anyways can you give me some pros for getting it in on the flop?

Cons:
Can get entire stack later in the hand if I hit
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: Very weird hand, 400nl

Raise the flop yo.
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: Very weird hand, 400nl

Pros to getting it in on the flop is you have FE vs. air for the $50 immediate profit and are like 50% is he gets it in vs. you with dead money in the pot. Also, I don't think he's gonna be getting it AI with air later in which case its the same result. As played I think the river is a fold because I can't see him bluffing you here.

I obv never implied that you didn't lose some. Just the opposite actually. I just wanted to know how you lost it. Calling down thin? Bluffing? Coolered? Owned?
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Old 10-11-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: Very weird hand, 400nl

2 of the AK's went down in big pots.

Anyways, I think he calls all-in with Ace high, so I definitely have 0 fold equity. Maybe I push for value though. This hand has paid off multiple times already throughout the night from this guy now.

Poker Stars, $2/$4 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BB: $558.90
Hero (UTG): $443.80
UTG+1: $581.25
UTG+2: $140.80
MP1: $421
MP2: $327.55
CO: $80
BTN: $649.55
SB: $241.50

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $16, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $16, 4 folds

Flop: ($54) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $28</font>, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls $28

Turn: ($110) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets $32</font>, Hero calls $32

River: ($174) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">MP2 bets $72</font>, Hero calls $72

Results: $318 Pot ($3 Rake)
Hero showed A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Jacks and Nines) and WON $315 (+$167 NET)
MP2 showed K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Nines) and LOST (-$148 NET)
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