25NL - Never know where I'm at in these spots

[absoludicrous]

I've been at this table for about two hours. Villain here is UTG. He's a mix. Huge PF calling station, and loves to c/c flop bets with anything, air, it doesn't matter. He'll lead turns with the worst of it too.

After 162 hands, he's 39/22/2, and hasn't won 22% of his showdowns, only showing down 21% of his hands. He loves to bet flop/turn.

I'd say he bets the river here 50% of the time.

Where are we at here?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $54.35
CO: $32.05
BTN: $24.15
Hero (SB): $125.70
BB: $26.25

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($4) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $2</font>, CO calls $2, Hero calls $2, BB folds

Had CO folded, I pop here 100% of the time. Does it really make that much of a difference that CO called?

Turn: ($10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $9</font>, CO folds, Hero?

Like I said, he's betting the river here 50% or more. His river AF is 7...so probably more than 50% of the time.

[Masera]

First we need to know what CO does on the turn.

[whyzze]

after UTG's weak bet and CO calls, I c/r the flop. They look weak and I'm happy to take it down there.

[absoludicrous]

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First we need to know what CO does on the turn.

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Oops, deleted his action, he folds the turn.

[absoludicrous]

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after UTG's weak bet and CO calls, I c/r the flop. They look weak and I'm happy to take it down there.

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Yeah, in hindsight I wanted to do this. CO is often calling with a draw here, and if he's not a total dumb ass, I think we can take it by raising to $10.

[WHITEBOYAEHS]

i suck at post flop decisions like this and this is why i toss hands like this oop without ridic pot odds

[Genz]

I don't like your preflop overcall. This is a trap hand, esp. with the call in late position, which could easily be AJo, AKo, KQ. Pot is gonne be pretty big compared to stack sizes and you are in a horrible position.

As played, flop is ok, but shows the weakness of your hand due to your horrible position and stack sizes. You can't take heat here.

On the turn you have a clear fold unless you think you can stack off profitably here. Villain wants to play a huge pot with you and you have an easily dominated hand oop against a villain, who might bet trash on the turn, but has shown only strength throughout the whole hand. I wouldn't stack off here.

Edit: just saw the effective stacks. It doesn't change much of what I said though. I still don't like the preflop call, because your hand is not a good implied odds hand, because you won't hit a sneaky monster here and you are still easily dominated. The pot is still gonna be huge: $28 and villain has a pot sized bet left, so you are likely to face a push and can't steal from him. Don't play huge pots with TP2K from oop against another 200+BB stacks, is my opinion.

[Genz]

lol. nice stack size btw.

[absoludicrous]

Genz -

Thanks man, I'm going to play even tighter in the blinds. KJ here is a standard call for me, gonna start mucking that shizz from now on.

[Effen]

Fold pre, KJo 3 ways (maybe 4) out of sb plays horribly.

C/R flop to $8, fold to shove, lead turn for another $8.

Gives megastrength and if you check and he checks behind, he could have you beat with AJ anyway and you're gonna get valuetowned on a blank river, plus there's way too many draws to give a free card to.

Or you can fold the flop and slap yourself for calling KJo oop multiway [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]