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Old 10-09-2007, 06:46 AM
Stalrock Stalrock is offline
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Default Turn Check Behind?

Villain was some what of a juicer; around 38, 7, 1.8

Do you guys like a check behind on the turn or no?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

SB: $194.15
BB: $317.60
Hero (UTG): $106.10
MP: $93.25
CO: $47.85
BTN: $110.55

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($9) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $12</font>, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($33) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($33) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:51 AM
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Default Re: Turn Check Behind?

Really good spot to b/f and protect from draws, he won't c/r twice with a hand u beat.

But i probably suck in those spots.
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Old 10-09-2007, 06:58 AM
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Default Re: Turn Check Behind?

Agree defo bet-fold here. If he calls, draws miss and he checks you should likely bet-fold river for value (enough that he can call with weaker jacks)
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:00 AM
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Default Re: Turn Check Behind?

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If he calls, draws miss and he checks you should likely bet-fold river for value (enough that he can call with weaker jacks)

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Def. not, check behind if he calls. Draws havent missed completly, u loose to 57, and he won't call a third bullet, which a hand u beat. U also still might loose to AJ.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:04 AM
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Default Re: Turn Check Behind?

Why would AJ check the turn and why would 57 not lead the turn or c/r the turn? If villain calls a turn beat with a weaker jack he'll call a small river value bet also IMHO.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:06 AM
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Default Re: Turn Check Behind?

"Why would AJ check the turn"
Cause peoply are bad.

Bet turn, check behind river.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: Turn Check Behind?

well i'll post the results. he had AQ, so it turned out to be absolutely perfect. however, do you guys think this is really a standard turn bet? i dont wanna be results oriented on this one.

i mean the guy was so loose too. he folded so rarely to c-bets.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:09 AM
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If he has AQ betting the turn is best, why the hell do u want to give him a freecard?
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:14 AM
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Default Re: Turn Check Behind?

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If he has AQ betting the turn is best, why the hell do u want to give him a freecard?

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because his odds of hitting arent good and i wanna give him a chance to bluff river. i mean none of this is relevant cause i didnt know he had AQ. however, but my thought against these idiots is give them a chance the bluff river as long as a safe card falls. theyre gonna hit sometimes but o well, gotta maximize.
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Old 10-09-2007, 07:17 AM
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If he has AQ betting the turn is best, why the hell do u want to give him a freecard?

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because his odds of hitting arent good

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The point is:

He has 7 Outs, and he won't call a bet with air.

The logic says bet.
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