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Old 10-06-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play this?

Pfr Is a massive drooler, then 25/5/6 then a 22/18. Im first to act after the flop...


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Hero (SB): $47.95
BB: $50.75
UTG: $57.20
MP: $86.80
CO: $48.25
BTN: $51.55

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $1</font>, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6</font>, BB folds, MP calls $5, CO calls $5, BTN calls $5

Flop: ($24.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero...????
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:56 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play thi

Open fold. Those guys are obviously too good.
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Old 10-06-2007, 08:58 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play this?

i think we can bet out here, but i am getting ready to release/shut down if someone raises or calls me.

Someone gotta have a set or NFD here.
I still think we should bet out. There is a tiny chance noone flopped anything, but it's tiny.
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:02 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play thi

I cant really bet out and fold if they push. I have to bet at least 17 leraving me w 25, getting 4:1 on a push... well that was my thought. So I decided I only had two options.

Check/Fold
Shove
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play thi

you could bet half the pot, you dont have to bet 3/4 in a 3bet multiway pot, at least that's what i do most of the time. Because people cant call too much in such a big pot with second pair or sth.

It is a weird spot. I guess check-folding is ok, too.

But I am lost.
Lets hear someone else.
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:07 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play thi

Betting 1/2 pot sucks if I am called. Which I am liable to be. Seems like total donation.
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:24 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play thi

Crazy pf action! No idea whatsoever re: MP hand. I'm shoving; not hoping for much. I would hope your ahead of everyone else but someone have hit a set. Hopefully better hands fold to a shove on the monotone.
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:59 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play thi

gotta call/fold here ... look at the possibilities..

A.) Overpairs. They can't lay those down at this level, so you get called and lose there.
B.) Flush draws. They're calling you, and probably rightly so as this pot would probably end up 3-way and thats the right price.
C.) Lower pocket pairs. The only pocket pairs you beat now are 22,33,44,55, 77, &amp; 99, and you lose to 6. 77 and 99 also have gut shot straight draws, and if they have a heart, have a 4-flush, so they probably call you also.
4.) 79, 68, &amp; 8 10 are all ahead of you also.

Keep in mind that you're essentially betting that none of the three have any of those cards. If you wanna bet that, I'd take the other side of that action all day.

Basically you're banking that they all have unimproved broadway with no hearts, and 22 through 66. Even the unimproved broadway is one card away from beating you.

Check, Fold as there is only one card in the deck that helps you (Js) and that may not be enough.

I think you can find a better spot than this.
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Old 10-06-2007, 10:11 AM
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Default Re: 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play thi

Id check, turn will be A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] but heyyyyy
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: 50nl - WTF is going on that they all call me pf? How do I play thi

Id normally just check fold i think.
Its fairly likely some of them are set mining and that flop hits those hands right in the face.
Also big hearts, straight draws and overpairs arent going anywhere here so id give up a lot of the time.
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