30NL - 6 max - JJ deep and tilting

Ryba · #1 10-04-2007, 06:44 PM

I'm playing taggy 22/17/2.5, villain in the hand is 53/21/1.5 plays loose and very likely tilting from the last hand. Our hand happens on the very next hand. Play it different? as played what it do?

villain is UTG

Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

CO: $74.90
BTN: $59.10
SB: $75.30
Hero (BB): $69.15
UTG: $66.90

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to $0.60, CO folds, BTN calls $0.60, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.65) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, BTN bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, BTN bets $3, UTG calls $3

River: ($10.05) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG bets $5, BTN raises to $15.60, UTG calls $10.60

Results: $41.25 Pot ($2.05 Rake)
BTN showed Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Queens full of Nines) and WON $39.20 (+$18.80 NET)
UTG mucked 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Nines and Sixes) and LOST (-$20.40 NET)

very next hand:

Full Tilt Poker, $0.15/$0.30 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $74.90
CO: $77.90
BTN: $75.15
Hero (SB): $68.85
BB: $46.50

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, BB raises to $8, Hero calls $7

Flop: ($16) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB bets $15, Hero ?

ahlee · #2 10-04-2007, 06:56 PM

2nd hand... depends on opponent...seems to be a tilt raise.
Preflop Push or the better choice is to fold preflop. You are behind AA, KK, QQ... if he has AK, AQ, KQ its still 50:50.
You don't give up that much of expectation when you fold to such a raise.

As played, flop bet, might be a cb. Fold would here be correct.

sightless · #3 10-04-2007, 06:57 PM

vs this guy i get more money in preflop
practically impossible that he has us beat

wslee00 · #4 10-04-2007, 07:01 PM

i don't get why you think he's tilting - just b/c he lost a pot? he didn't get outdrawn or anything - he had the worst hand pf, and was never ahead anytime during the previous hand.

sightless · #5 10-04-2007, 07:04 PM

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Villain played his hand in hand #1 VERY BAD; like he was either tilting, or not very smart.
In either case I think JJ crushes him and get more money in preflop

wslee00 · #6 10-04-2007, 07:10 PM

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Villain played his hand in hand #1 like he was either tilting, or not very smart.
In either case I think JJ crushes him and get more money in preflop

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I would lean toward him being not smart. Going with that assumption, it looks like he has a BIG hand here. To me, he looks like the type of player that will play his big hands super strong, but play his mediocre hands like a calling station. Just look how he played that last hand. He called flop and turn and then threw out a blocking bet on the river to get a cheaper showdown. Of course he called the raise b/c... he's just really bad.

This next hand is completely different. He is showing a LOT of strength pf. He's showing strength on the flop. To me, this looks like AK/AA/KK and i think we probably shoulda folded to that huge pf 3-bet.

Ryba · #7 10-04-2007, 07:49 PM

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i don't get why you think he's tilting

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Villain played his hand in hand #1 VERY BAD; like he was either tilting, or not very smart.
In either case I think JJ crushes him and get more money in preflop

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ya i think thats best, thou at the time i didn't feel like possibly flipping for 150bbs, so i figured to take a flop let him continue spewing

PayoffWiz · #8 10-04-2007, 09:03 PM

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i don't get why you think he's tilting

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Villain played his hand in hand #1 VERY BAD; like he was either tilting, or not very smart.
In either case I think JJ crushes him and get more money in preflop

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ya i think thats best, thou at the time i didn't feel like possibly flipping for 150bbs, so i figured to take a flop let him continue spewing

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I don't mind just calling preflop. I have no intentions of folding on the flop to this donk with one over. Given the previous hand, his range is huge. I would either CRAI or check call the flop being prepared to stack off on the turn regardless of what hit.

john voight · #9 10-04-2007, 11:57 PM

reraise all in all day.

Ryba · #10 10-05-2007, 12:06 AM

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reraise all in all day.

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oh i shoved, and he insta called with.... 44 [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]