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Old 10-04-2007, 08:04 PM
ronitonline ronitonline is offline
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Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $97.40
CO: $100
Hero (BTN): $100
SB: $193.30
BB: $100
UTG: $127.90

Pre-Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $3.50</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $11</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $7.50

Flop: ($23.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $16</font>, CO calls $16

Turn: ($55.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
CO checks, <font color="red">Hero checks or bets?

<font color="black"> Villian is unknown. Looks like he could be donkish, but not certain at this point.
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:24 PM
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Default Re: NL100 RRpot, 1010

check
if he checks to u on non dangerous river make thin valuebet.
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Old 10-04-2007, 08:43 PM
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If I check and he checks again, theres no thin valuebet, thats an obvious I have the best hand and a mandatory VB IMO.
I think I have the best hand here a lot.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:13 PM
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If I check and he checks again, theres no thin valuebet, thats an obvious I have the best hand and a mandatory VB IMO.
I think I have the best hand here a lot.

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What makes you think that? Villain's range in a 3-bet pot is probably limited to pocket pairs and overcards, unless you have a reason to think otherwise. He probably can't take a check/call line with any hand in that range you're beating except possibly 88-99, and even then I'd expect most villains to show more aggression. This is a very dry board. What range do you put him on?
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:26 PM
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If I check and he checks again, theres no thin valuebet, thats an obvious I have the best hand and a mandatory VB IMO.
I think I have the best hand here a lot.

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True, but irrelevant.

To make a value bet on the river you don't need to be ahead of villain -- you need to be ahead of villain's CALLING range. Do you really think villain pays off a river bet with a hand worse than TT here? More to the point, do you think that villain has a hand weaker than TT more than 50% after he calls a river bet? I'm thinking the answer is "no."
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: NL100 RRpot, 1010

why reraise 10's against a unknown?

as played, c/f turn c/r river
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:52 PM
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Betting = bluffing
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:53 PM
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why reraise 10's against a unknown?

as played, c/f turn c/r river

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yea lets c/r in position. u seem to make this mistake a lot.
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Old 10-04-2007, 09:58 PM
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why reraise 10's against a unknown?

as played, c/f turn c/r river

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yea lets c/r in position. u seem to make this mistake a lot.

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lol ops I obviously meant c/f river too duh, weird mistype

edit: wtf you spying on me or what, or have a rain man like memory?
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:16 PM
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If I check and he checks again, theres no thin valuebet, thats an obvious I have the best hand and a mandatory VB IMO.
I think I have the best hand here a lot.

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True, but irrelevant.

To make a value bet on the river you don't need to be ahead of villain -- you need to be ahead of villain's CALLING range. Do you really think villain pays off a river bet with a hand worse than TT here? More to the point, do you think that villain has a hand weaker than TT more than 50% after he calls a river bet? I'm thinking the answer is "no."

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Pokey I only mentioned that answering post #1.

Villian is unknown considering I don't have legit reads but from what I've seen he doesn't seem great.
I put villian on A10s+,55+ preflop TBH, I would expect villian to raise the turn with anything that beats me if I bet.
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