Live Debate Right Now Betwwen Dawkins and Lennox

Roland32 · #1 10-03-2007, 08:07 PM

Debate

Should be interesting to say the least.

Roland32 · #2 10-03-2007, 08:27 PM

The first link is getting bogged down so here is another.

Debate

tpir · #3 10-03-2007, 08:39 PM

The guys reaction after he gets busted for equivocating "faith" is basically gg.

vhawk01 · #4 10-03-2007, 08:55 PM

This is sort of unrelated to this thread but I just wanted to brag that Hitchens is going to be debating Alister McGrath on my campus next Thursday and I'm definitely going and its going to be awesome.

vhawk01 · #5 10-03-2007, 08:58 PM

This is excellent btw, ty OP

tpir · #6 10-03-2007, 09:02 PM

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what campus is this?

Roland32 · #7 10-03-2007, 09:02 PM

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Wow, I must admit I felt no happiness for your when I read this, sheer jealousy.

Go [censored] yourself! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Roland32 · #8 10-03-2007, 09:04 PM

Im glad Richard has finally said "screw it" to the format, he was basically being set up not to rebut. But just rehash his book.

vhawk01 · #9 10-03-2007, 09:06 PM

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what campus is this?

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Georgetown.

vhawk01 · #10 10-03-2007, 09:15 PM

Ok, so here is the perfect counterargument to this Stalin/Mao rebuttal:

When Dawkins or Harris say that religion leads to all these problems, what they mean is FAITH leads to all of these problems. Most religious people are perfectly nice, but they revere faith, and once you've gone down the road of revering faith it is now IMPOSSIBLE to condemn the fanatical faith of anyone. Rationalists would be the FIRST ones to tear apart Stalin and Mao, and their form of atheism, because they are the only ones who are CAPABLE of doing it. The faith-ists could say whatever they wanted, but they would have to admit that Mao and Stalin's faith was just as legitimate as theirs.