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Old 10-04-2007, 02:57 AM
Rip_AA Rip_AA is offline
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Default Terrible Play, have to call?

45 Man Tourney 20+2,FT, I played two hands, did not show down any, first hand at the table, I figure I have to call after his RR, I have like no chips left and am getting such good odds to call. Is this right?

Seat 1: Rip_AKo (6,620)
Seat 2: Trips407 (9,630)
Seat 3: GaryRiver (11,275)
Seat 4: JJMM1479 (10,840)
Seat 8: mdb883 (16,775)
Seat 9: Javvii (12,360)
Rip_AKo posts the small blind of 400
Trips407 posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rip_AKo [9h Td]
GaryRiver folds
JJMM1479 calls 800
mdb883 folds
Javvii calls 800
JJMM1479: lol
Rip_AKo has 15 seconds left to act
Rip_AKo raises to 4,390
Trips407 folds
JJMM1479 raises to 10,840, and is all in
Javvii folds
Rip_AKo calls 2,230, and is all in
JJMM1479 shows [2c 2s]
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Old 10-04-2007, 03:10 AM
dancingbrave dancingbrave is offline
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Default Re: Terrible Play, have to call?

Yes you're right to call, but you were wrong to only put 2/3rds of your chips in initially because you're committed to calling. Best to get all your chips in if you're going to make this move and increase your fold equity.
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Old 10-04-2007, 06:11 AM
willperkins willperkins is offline
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Default Re: Terrible Play, have to call?



If you are the first to enter the pot and want to push T9s, that would be fine.

However in this case, with UTG1 already in and BB still to act, I would let it go and wait for a spot where I could be the first to shove.

If I was going to reraise in this spot, I would go ahead and shove (not save t2230).

As played, you might as well go ahead and call off your last t2230.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:22 AM
Mr. GQ Mr. GQ is offline
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Default Re: Terrible Play, have to call?

With Seat 1: Rip_AKo (6,620)

Villains sees limpers and raises 4,390 - right away he's not folding for an additional $2,230 because he's pot comitted so you've effectively put yourself into a horrible coin flip at best.
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Old 10-04-2007, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Terrible Play, have to call?

Bad play-Yes
Have to Call-Yes
Wait to push as first in with a hand like T9
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Terrible Play, have to call?

I did put myself in a terrible spot, the guy that limped in EP was extremely active and he wasn't calling many RR's, but would raise up any pair almost everytime. Just played the hand like I'd play a big pair, knew I wasn't completely dominated, just didn't know how weak the ace was or the pair. With that guy, I figured it was still his stack going on in the flop with is 6k, he only has 10k, is he going to push in 2-6's, I didn't think so if he even did have a pair, but I guess I was wrong.
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Old 10-04-2007, 02:27 PM
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Default Re: Terrible Play, have to call?

With an active open limper and a caller I would push this everytime - T9o has some showdown value, you have FE, no one has shown strength and your M is already low - but here your stack is still large enought to try a steal.

Your bet size was weird. You can play a go'n'go - but therefor it was too large, but the best solution is simply to push.
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Old 10-04-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: Terrible Play, have to call?

^^^ agreed. With 2 limpers, the raise would be fine, if it had been a push.
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