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Old 10-02-2007, 10:51 PM
Mr. GQ Mr. GQ is offline
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Default Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

Could I have gotten any more streets wrong! I'm such a donkey, horrible.


Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t200/t400
(Ante: t50)
9 players
Converter

Seat 1: yzbrad (12,332)
Seat 2: CoastalPGM (6,660)
Seat 3: reginaboy (30,786)
Seat 4: AHNAHN (14,120)
Seat 5: Rikumal (48,789)
Seat 6: milchkaffe (25,775)
Seat 7: GQ9999 (9,865)
Seat 8: win4life1 (18,431)
Seat 9: TopMan12 (15,600)

CoastalPGM posts the small blind of 200
reginaboy posts the big blind of 400

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
AHNAHN calls t400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1050)</font>, 2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">GQ9999 raises to t1150</font>, 5 folds, AHNAHN calls t750 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t2600)</font>.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t3350, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">GQ9999 bets t2120</font>, AHNAHN calls t2120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t5470)</font>.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t7590, 2 players)
AHNAHN checks, <font color="#cc0000">GQ9999 bets t3400</font>, UTG calls t3400 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t10990)</font>.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t14390, 2 players)
AHNAHN checks, <font color="#cc0000">GQ9999 is all-in t3145</font>, AHNAHN calls t3145 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t17535)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: t20680
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:17 PM
ssnyc ssnyc is offline
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Default Re: Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

little light pre but what's the problem...looks fine? Q 10 hearts or something silly beat you?
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:29 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

Maybe raise more pre, but the turn is my concern. Needed to shove it there I think to discourage flush/straight draws if you were going to dump the rest in on the river anyway.
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

Pot the flop... think about pushing turn...
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Old 10-02-2007, 11:42 PM
Mr. GQ Mr. GQ is offline
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Default Re: Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

Pissed I missed pushing the turn... instead I was value betting and maybe just abour protecting against draws... to try and pick up more chips...
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

You gotta get that pot inflated, w 25bb's we gotta make easy work of getting them all in there, Raise 1600 pre, looks fine after limper (pot 4300), 3000 flop, jam turn... does not tell out our hand at all.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:33 AM
cheburashka cheburashka is offline
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Default Re: Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

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Pissed I missed pushing the turn... instead I was value betting and maybe just abour protecting against draws... to try and pick up more chips...

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If you were protecting against a heart draw, you did it very poorly, as you gave him correct odds to draw.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

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Maybe raise more pre, but the turn is my concern. Needed to shove it there I think to discourage flush/straight draws if you were going to dump the rest in on the river anyway.

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Exactly what he said.
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

GQ...all this is relatively minor cause you were most likely gonna get it all in on this flop at this stage...why are you so stressed? Was it your line or just the result?
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Old 10-03-2007, 04:50 PM
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Default Re: Let\'s hear everyone confirm I\'m a donkey with AA

I really don't think he played it too badly (though I like a turn push and I'd bump it preflop a bit more).

The flop is reasonably safe vs. a single opponent -- spade draw is possible, obv, and straight draw is unlikely (with QT the only borderline-reasonable possibility). I like that he led out and I think the size is fine.

Once he calls the flop bet, we have to think he's got AJ, J9, QT, a set, or a spade draw. I think villain calling with two hearts is very unlikely unless they're J9 or QT. You're only behind J9 (not very likely) or a set (more likely) here, so I think you're still ahead of his overall range... I'd bet out the turn and since your stack is now smaller than the pot, you need to push here. That's really the only mistake you made here.

As played, you obviously have to push the river. You now moved ahead of everything that he could reasonably have except QThh (as someone posted before). But given the pot, your stack, and the fact that you're an almost certain lock, the push is a no-brainer obv.
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