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Old 10-02-2007, 02:57 PM
illwill514 illwill514 is offline
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Default AK whiffed flop, what odds do I need to call checkraise shove?

villain is 20/15 over 40 hands. I know I cant call shove but what kind of pot odds do I need to make this a call.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($105)
CO ($108.90)
Hero ($100)
SB ($475.65)
BB ($111)
UTG ($100)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $8.

Flop: ($25.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $21.1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $93</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $67.70
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:09 PM
Claunchy Claunchy is offline
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Default Re: AK whiffed flop, what odds do I need to call checkraise shove?

This is a perfect example of why you should c-bet smaller in 3-bet pots. Even if you had an overpair you would have no trouble getting it in on the turn if you c-bet like 15-18.

To figure out whether you have the odds to call here, just pokerstove some reasonable range against your AK and see if you are &gt;33% to win.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default Re: AK whiffed flop, what odds do I need to call checkraise shove?

good point. reasonable range being TT+ AdQd, 77, 66, AdJd, AdKd I guess?
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