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Old 10-03-2007, 07:42 AM
Rookcifer Rookcifer is offline
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Default NL $2 -- Bad Beats or Bad Play? A Few Hands

Here are a few hands where I lost big and I want to know if I misplayed them (which I am sure I did) or if some of them were simply bad luck. I will put results in white, so please dont look at the results until after you critique the hand. Please let me know which hands were just simply bad luck.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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MP2 ($1.70)
CO ($2.01)
Button ($5.75)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($2.98)</font>
BB ($2.56)
UTG ($3.15)
UTG+1 ($2.63)
<font color="#C00000">MP1 ($4.22)</font>

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.02, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $0.1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.09, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $0.08.

Flop: ($0.32) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.4</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls $0.20.

Turn: ($1.12) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $0.4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.06</font>, MP1 calls $0.66.

River: ($3.24) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.42 (All-In)</font>, MP1 calls $1.42.

Final Pot: $6.08

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 6h 6c (full house, sixes full of aces).
MP1 has Ad Qd (full house, aces full of queens).
Outcome: MP1 wins $6.08. </font>



Hand 2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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Button ($0.75)
SB ($3.54)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($3.30)</font>
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($3.89)</font>
UTG+1 ($2.94)
MP1 ($1.24)
MP2 ($6.16)
CO ($4.84)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.06</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.04.

Flop: ($0.13) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $3.83</font>, Hero calls $3.08 (All-In).

Turn: ($6.61) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($6.61) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $6.61

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Td Qd (two pair, queens and tens).
UTG has As Ah (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: UTG wins $7.20. </font>

Hand 3

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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UTG+1 ($6.17)
MP1 ($2.97)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($2.61)</font>
MP3 ($3.24)
CO ($2.53)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($1.68)</font>
SB ($1.78)
BB ($0.92)
UTG ($1.06)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.02, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $0.08</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.14</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls $0.06.

Flop: ($0.33) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $0.52</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.54</font>, MP2 calls $1.02.

Turn: ($3.41) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: ($3.41) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $3.41

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 has Kd Jd (two pair, kings and jacks).
Hero has Ac Ah (one pair, aces).
Outcome: MP2 wins $3.41. </font>

hand 4

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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BB ($0.73)
UTG ($2.99)
<font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($4.01)</font>
MP1 ($3.48)
MP2 ($0.70)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($5.51)</font>
CO ($3.64)
Button ($4.88)
SB ($4.98)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.02, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.09) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.02</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, CO folds.

Turn: ($0.15) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.04</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.04, Hero calls $0.04.

River: ($0.27) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.06</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $0.82</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5.43</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $3.11 (All-In).

Final Pot: $8.19

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG+1 has 9s Jh (straight, king high).
Hero has 4d Ad (three of a kind, fours).
Outcome: Hero wins $9.69. </font>

hand 5

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

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UTG ($4.36)
UTG+1 ($2.23)
MP1 ($5.55)
MP2 ($2.84)
CO ($7.44)
<font color="#C00000">Button ($8.01)</font>
SB ($1.25)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($7.38)</font>

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.02, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.02, Button calls $0.02, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.10) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.1</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Button calls $0.10, SB calls $0.10.

Turn: ($0.40) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.44</font>, Button calls $0.44, SB folds.

River: ($1.28) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.34</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4.72</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6.82</font>, Button calls $2.10.

Final Pot: $14.92

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 7d 4s (straight, seven high).
Button has Qc 6c (full house, sixes full of fives).
Outcome: Button wins $14.92. </font>
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Old 10-03-2007, 07:58 AM
raymond715 raymond715 is offline
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Default Re: NL $2 -- Bad Beats or Bad Play? A Few Hands

Hand 1: standard...although i'd lead flop almost always...you were getting stacked either way
Hand 2: well played. AI is the only move on flop here, IMO
Hand 3: standard
Hand 4: interesting. If you were heads up, i might opt to raise flop here,depending on reads. Multiway you don't have any FE (actually come to think of it fold equity probably doesn't exist at these limits) so check calling is reasonable i think....however the river was a baaad card for you...as a side note, the hand was played horribly by villian when he checked his made hand on turn with 2 others in the pot, presumably chasing the nuts. His lack of action there would probably lead me to call river and then punch the computer when he turned over the straight.
Hand 5: well played, potting flop and turn...obviously the board pairing was terrible and im not sure if betting river here was a good idea, as he's not calling you with a worse hand...I'd check and maybe call a small bet if i though he was on a draw that missed...as played fold to river RR.
overall well played, a few of the hands there wasn't much you could do...
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Old 10-03-2007, 10:07 AM
CaptVimes CaptVimes is offline
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Default Re: NL $2 -- Bad Beats or Bad Play? A Few Hands

Hand #1 - Standard. You not getting away from this.

Hand #2 - Fold this preflop to the EP raise. Hand is easily dominated and you are going to be OOP the whole hand. The only time I would call this would be in LP. Not sure I could lay down, but his shove makes a strong argument.

Hand #3 - Standard

Hand #4 - Raise the flop you likely have 11-14 outs. As played I call the river instead of raising.

Hand #5 - With the board double pairing all villain needs is 1 card to beat you. Check/call or fold river. Depends on villain's bet. Hard to call a full pot bet here.
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