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Old 10-01-2007, 10:52 PM
efficacy efficacy is offline
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Default turn value check, good spot?

Villain is 47/20/1

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: turn value check, good spot?

I've come to the conclusion here that he has K3 when you bet &amp; KJ when you check.
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Old 10-01-2007, 11:20 PM
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Default Re: turn value check, good spot?

there are two lines on the turn.

bet/call, call river

check turn, call river.

what ever you think will make themost money, do that.

IF this guy is calling the flop just to c/r the turn with whatever he has, then bet/call the turn.

If you aren't sure, I'd check against someone I don't trust.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:31 AM
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Default Re: turn value check, good spot?

most villians dont bet the river with their missed draw so I would think there is more value in betting the turn as you are charging the draws to draw and you can check behind on the river
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Old 10-02-2007, 05:33 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: turn value check, good spot?

Turn value check play can be good against aggressive players. This guy is rather passive.
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Old 10-02-2007, 07:41 AM
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Default Re: turn value check, good spot?

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Turn value check play can be good against aggressive players. This guy is rather passive.

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Not necessarily true.

A general thing to consider OP:

If you have a hand where you dont think you can value bet both turn and river you should consider checking. However if he wont bet a busted draw on the river for you a value check has less EV than a turn bet.

If you think you have a value bet on both streets you should rarely check.


Against a bad player who isnt completely passive like this guy - I would check the turn and call a bet expecting him to bluff quite a lot. But thats because I wouldnt bet both turn and river here.
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