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Old 09-30-2007, 11:00 AM
MrP MrP is offline
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Default Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

Sitting at 1-2 at the Taj is pretty +EV,anyway
bought in for 200,struggled a bit as table was very loose to pick up even limp quality hands, and had improved my stack to about 270 using my image in pots vs the TAG players.
Anyway there is a donkey at the table who has been callin RR out of postion with horrible hands, paying off with MP and BP on river for overbets, and just basically giving his money away.
I have been waiting to isolate him and take adavantage of his weak limp calling range.

I get dealt Kd10d on the button
the game is five way due to 2 people sitting out.
donkey is covered by me he has about 240 I about 280.

it folds around to donkey and he limps in the CO.
I raise to 9 blinds fold, and he calls

FLOP
J 10 10
donkey checks
i bet 16
he imediately calls
TURN
3
donkey checks
I bet 35
donkey minraises me to 70

!!!!!!!! this is where it gets scarey, i dont remember him ever putting money in donking it but calling donking it always. I cant remeber him not having a good hand when he was raising turns and betting rivers.
I put 33 and J10 as his most viable holdings.He is rasing any ace there when were so short handed, and 10-3 is a little to donkish even for him.
So on this turn what do you do!!!!

sorry bout lenghty post, just doin this for a living so trying to learn alot
thx
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Old 09-30-2007, 11:12 AM
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Default Re: Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

why cant this be 10-8 or anything?I think you are good most of the time here.
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Old 09-30-2007, 11:48 AM
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Default Re: Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

If he"s as dunkey as you"re saying, his range of hand is very large. He can have from QJ to 33.

I would call the turn and check or call the river. It"s the hand you have been waiting for. If he has J10, good for him and rebuy.

I think your expected value is way too high to fold
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Old 09-30-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

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Anyway there is a donkey at the table who has been callin RR out of postion with horrible hands, paying off with MP and BP on river for overbets, and just basically giving his money away.

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A player like this think's that any T is the nuts. I shove turn and expect to be good here most of the time. If he has JT then I rebuy and try to stackadonk again.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

think that is incorrect due to me saying i have never see him raise turns and bet rivers and such with strongt hands
anyway some more comments and then i will reveal the ending
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:35 PM
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Default Re: Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

meant havent seen him raise and bets turns and rivers without him having a strong hand.
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Old 09-30-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

vs this player, call and shove the river or just shove now. we arent getting away from this hand vs. this player, the question should be how best to extract from him at this point. bet/folding this turn is horrendous.
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Old 09-30-2007, 11:02 PM
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Default Re: Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

you basically have the nuts, if he has a boat then that's a cooler, bust honestly he's playing any trips and probably some Jx hands like this, Get the money in.
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Old 10-01-2007, 04:50 AM
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Default Re: Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

i called turn raise

RIVER
Q
he imeediately goes all in.
I know im beat, I fold it

he shows J10
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:08 AM
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Default Re: Taj Mahal 1-2 (flop trips) did i think right

I understand that in the hand he had JT, but there is no reason this cant be QT,KT,T9,T8,T7s or any of those hands.
this can sometimes (although probably not usually) be Jx.

you have to understand that his range is bigger than 33 and TJ here.

A fish will indeed think that any Ten is the nuts here and you are beating almost all tens so be willing to get it in and expect to be good most of the time vs. a fish
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