1/2 vs Ryancmu

[SgtJake]

I'm in a major ds right now so I've turtled up quite a bit. You know how it is, every time you would normally insta push/call, you know you're beat, so you consider folding.

Who calls his poosh here?

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($103.15)
Button ($60.90)
SB ($85.20)
BB ($64)
UTG ($57.10)
UTG+1 ($98)
MP1 ($170.95)
Hero ($97.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $12</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $8.50.

Flop: ($25.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $32</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $91.15</font>, Hero????

[FireStorm]

I don't even know where to begin.

4 bet preflop.

Lead the flop. If you decide not to lead the flop, please don't min/CR.

As played looks like a call, flops aren't going to get much better once you decide to play KK this way.

[Mike Kelley]

He only 3bet me once. He had AA.

[coordi]

Im sure you have alot of history with him. Do you think he would 3-bet you light? QQ, JJ, AK? I don't really know what his range is here, but i'm sure it would be at least a little dependent on what he thinks you could have.

[PrimogenitoX]

1) Don't play PL.

2) Reads??

3) Preflop is fine. Whether to 4bet depends on a few things, but either is fine.

4) Check shoving flop is one way to play it. Oh wait...PL

5) Checkminraising is very douchelike.

6) Call.

[CalledDownLight]

I'm fine with your line to this point. I would call here, but I'm not sure you'll be good a ton.

[Hklm8383]

cant fold KK

[RyanCMU]

I think you have to consider what you likely think my image of you is. And when you think like that, you can make my 3betting range fairly wide I think.

With that said, I was shocked when you said you folded as strong of a holding as KK.

[RyanCMU]

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I don't even know where to begin.

4 bet preflop.

Lead the flop. If you decide not to lead the flop, please don't min/CR.

As played looks like a call, flops aren't going to get much better once you decide to play KK this way.

[/ QUOTE ]

4betting pf is terrible here vs me, and he knows it... With our history and what he likely thinks I think of his play, 4betting is burning money.

I think a flop lead is kind of interesting though.

[soah]

if I ever check/minraise the flop in this spot it's because I won't need to be asking what to do if he pushes