Why should I bet? Why should I not bet? (100nl)

[Orsman]

Reads: The only pot I've seen him play in was when he raised A8s utg, got one caller, checked behind on flop and raised a weak bet when he got a FD on turn.

What is the best way to play this turn? It sucks to get raised but I don't think he is raising me with hands that I have beat/split (Ax, Kx, FD). Folding here felt weak too but If I call his turn raise I have to call any no heart river, and I might even be drawing dead...

100 NL, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($73.68)
SB ($101.20)
BB ($71.52)
UTG Hero ($107.80)
UTG+1 <font color="#C00000">UTG+1 ($158.85)</font>
CO ($100.00)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero raises to 4.00, UTG+1 calls 4.00, 4 folds.

Flop (9.50) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero bets 7.00, UTG+1 calls 7.00.

Turn (23.50) 7 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero bets 16.00, UTG+1 raises to 52.00, 1 fold

[mrpav.com]

Yeah thats a fine play. If you bet out flop and you get the turn, and you get reraised thats an easy fold. He can easily have you crused since the 7 sgowerd, plus is hes not an agressive player and he bet that much on the turn you know he has a monster [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Oct0puz]

The only worse hand you are going to get called by is probably just a FD. I c/c to avoid getting pushed off my FD and to induce bluffs . Without the club draw I b/f.

[Fonkey123]

This is perfect.

[Oct0puz]

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Could you explain why you think b/f is better than c/c?

[tubasteve]

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Reads: The only pot I've seen him play in was when he raised A8s utg, got one caller, checked behind on flop and raised a weak bet when he got a FD on turn.

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yeah, you probably should fold when he does the exact same thing to you!

edit: yes i know this situation is different. but im not really willing to just toss TPGK+FD here when we've made a weak bet, and have seen him raise weak bets with draws. im really having trouble putting this guy on a hand that we lose to on that board. people dont call a bet with 7x here very often, and if he has AK/AA/KK then good for him

[Fonkey123]

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Could you explain why you think b/f is better than c/c?

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I'm not folding.

[Genz]

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Could you explain why you think b/f is better than c/c?

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I'm not folding.

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OP did. The "1 fold" is him. So you push or flat call and c/c the river?

OP, I don't know why you say that you don't think that villain won't raise you with weaker hands here when errthing you saw about him was raising a weak bet with a draw.

[Fonkey123]

Oh lol, shove turn.

[Orsman]

This is the hand that he played one orbit earlier (Villain is UTG):

and please don't coment my play in this hand, I know I should 3bet...

100 nl, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($47.95)
SB <font color="#C00000">SB ($84.47)</font>
BB Hero ($100.50)
UTG <font color="#C00000">UTG ($110.70)</font>
UTG+1 ($91.40)
CO ($53.24)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG raises to 4.00, 3 folds, SB calls 3.50, Hero calls 3.00.

Flop (12.00) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn (12.00) 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB bets 1.00, Hero calls 1.00, UTG raises to 15.00, SB calls 14.00, 1 fold.

River (43.00) T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB checks, UTG bets 32.00, SB calls 32.00

UTG shows 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB shows K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

UTG wins 107.00 with Flush (Hearts) with Ace high