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Old 09-27-2007, 02:59 AM
Stalrock Stalrock is offline
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Default KK overpair going to the river.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $170.50
BB: $73.65
UTG: $124.65
MP: $116.30
CO: $198.20
Hero (BTN): $99.55

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $1.00, MP calls $1.00, CO folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $5.00</font>, 2 folds, UTG calls $4.00, MP calls $4.00

Flop: ($16.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
UTG checks, MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11.00</font>, UTG folds, MP calls $11.00

Turn: ($38.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $29.00</font>, MP calls $29.00

River: ($96.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets all-in for $71.30</font>, [i]Hero ?
Pot Size: $167.80 ($3 Rake)

Is this a turn where you guys ever check behind against any kind of opponent? Is this a easy river fold?
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:04 AM
manupod manupod is offline
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Default Re: KK overpair going to the river.

I like a turn check to be honest, and I think the river is a fold for sure.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:06 AM
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Default Re: KK overpair going to the river.

I think turn check is good vs unknowns. I fold river.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:08 AM
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Default Re: KK overpair going to the river.

not really sure why people are advocating a turn check
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: KK overpair going to the river.

Yeah wtf, bet turn all day. River is an easy fold.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:14 AM
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Default Re: KK overpair going to the river.

lol, we get c/r on this turn a ton. We get folds from all one pair hands we beat (sans one pair + draw) hands. We never get three streets of value, etc etc etc
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: KK overpair going to the river.

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lol, we get c/r on this turn a ton.

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Sure, but that's not even necessarily a bad thing.

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We get folds from all one pair hands we beat (sans one pair + draw) hands. We never get three streets of value, etc etc etc

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Disagree on all counts here. Lots of overpair etc hands call the turn. Why do you assume we never get 3 streets of value?
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:30 AM
mythrilfox mythrilfox is offline
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Default Re: KK overpair going to the river.

"lol, we get c/r on this turn a ton."

I don't hardly ever get check-raised on this turn, and every time I do I'm beat. He's not folding any pair here, this is a really easy bet for protection in my opinion.

I also disagree we can't get 3 streets of value from worse. These people are [censored] awful, betting overpairs for 3 streets on unthreatening boards is where a 100nl player should make his bread and butter. Also, even if this were true, it's obviously much better to bet the turn and protect our hand.
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Old 09-27-2007, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: KK overpair going to the river.

raise a little more PF, 5.50 or 6$

against an unknown here I'm betting this turn all day
against a nitty guy, who likes to c/c and then c/r with sets a lot and who wont stack off here with 99 or TT you can check behind on the turn, then just call a river bet, value betting if it is checked to you
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