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Old 09-24-2007, 10:39 PM
junyor junyor is offline
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Default Playing Flopped set oop aganst preflop raiser $11+1 UB bounty

Villian is 19/11 over 40ish hands

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30./t60.
10 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t2305
UTG+1: t5350
UTG+2: t2565
MP1: t8220
MP2: t6920
MP3: t4115
CO: t1065
Button: t2635
SB: t4040
Hero: t3090

Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t120</font>, 5 folds, Hero calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t210)</font>.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t270, 2 players) <font color="red"> Hero ?? </font>

Wondering how to proceed on a board with this many draws on it. Fairly certain he is CB this flop with just about anything he opened with so a check raise isn't out of the question. I played this horribly I will advance the hand after suggestions for the flop.
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: Playing Flopped set oop aganst preflop raiser $11+1 UB bounty

I am probably leading with a bet of 220 mainly because our opponent will not be able to take a free card and the fact that betting widens our range. If we c/r he can put us on something like two overs and a flush draw or a set. However, if we lead we are representing hands like A5, A8, A4, 67, and may encourage a raise from a PP like 99+, and maybe something like AK, AQ, or AJ with a spade in their hands.
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Old 09-25-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: Playing Flopped set oop aganst preflop raiser $11+1 UB bounty

The nice part of bet/3 bet all in is most villains won't fold an over pair, they never get to take a free card, and your hand can look like a draw.

So i lead like 220 hoping to get raised.
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Old 09-25-2007, 01:05 AM
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Default Re: Playing Flopped set oop aganst preflop raiser $11+1 UB bounty

Looking back at the hand I think raising would have been my best play also which isn't what actually happened. I'm certain I played this hand in the worst way I could have. This hand was the last before the first break and I think I would have rather busted going in with my set then come out with the stack I was left with when this was over...


Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t270, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets t135</font>, Hero calls t135 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t405)</font>.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t540, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets t300</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t600</font>, MP1 calls t300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1440)</font>.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1740, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t350</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t950</font>, Hero calls t600 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t3040)</font>.

Results:
Final pot: t3640

Pretty sure I made mistakes on every street except preflop. I think check calling the flop is horrible not sure why I did it, and certainly if I am going to C/R the turn I probably should have shoved. I really should have check folded the river as played but instead payed off...
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:29 AM
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Default Re: Playing Flopped set oop aganst preflop raiser $11+1 UB bounty

wow holy lord god you play bad

you managed to turn the nizzles into the non nizzles

what were you thinking
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:41 AM
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Default Re: Playing Flopped set oop aganst preflop raiser $11+1 UB bounty

c/c is the just about as bad as check/folding.
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Old 09-25-2007, 06:47 AM
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Yes, you definitely couldn't have played the hand any worse. But, welcome to 2+2. Read and post a lot here, and you'll see your game take some steps forward. Buy some books, read them and re-read them. When you've grasped the concepts and feel comfortable with your own style, sign up for PXF and watch the videos stickied atop of this forum. You'll really learn a lot by watching others play...
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Old 09-25-2007, 07:49 AM
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Default Re: Playing Flopped set oop aganst preflop raiser $11+1 UB bounty

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c/c is the just about as bad as check/folding.

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Not exactly but on this flop yes. The turn kills your action.
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:09 PM
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Default Re: Playing Flopped set oop aganst preflop raiser $11+1 UB bounty

To answer your question, I have no idea what I was thinking. Realizing I should have played it completely differently is why I posted it here. I knew a swarm of holy god you play bad was coming but I knew that I needed to play it completely different the next time around. So next time I will lead the flop and go from there. I certainly needed to learn from the mistakes I made on this hand...
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Old 09-25-2007, 02:32 PM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: Playing Flopped set oop aganst preflop raiser $11+1 UB bounty

I smooth called against a PSB with a set of sixes three days ago on a 6 7 2 board. When I didn't stack off QQ by the end of the hand because the next two cards were 9 9, I almost got up and left the tournament. Because I felt like I didn't deserve to play.

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