NL25: JTs (FD+Gut Shot +TP)

Foldem78 · #1 09-23-2007, 11:42 PM

Pre-Flop: 95% of the time I fold this..(because pokertracker tells me I'm losing money with it OOP and I'm afraid of a raise behind; incidentally, that's exactly what happened.)

FWIW..UTG had been involved in all but one hand since he entered the table (14 hands ago)..

Do you play the turn differently vs. a regular TAG?

All comments appreciated.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($16.70)
Hero ($24.30)
MP1 ($10.30)
MP2 ($23.15)
MP3 ($7.75)
CO ($55)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($19.40)
BB ($28.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.25, 2 folds, SB completes, BB raises to $1.5, UTG calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.25, MP3 calls $1.25, SB folds.

Flop: ($6.25) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75, MP3 folds, BB folds.

Turn: ($11.75) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $12.45 (All-In), Hero ???

WCGRider · #2 09-23-2007, 11:43 PM

plz raise that flop, as for the turn, i call /pot odds

Damntra · #3 09-23-2007, 11:46 PM

I'd raise flop to $9.

Call shove.

chopsticks · #4 09-23-2007, 11:49 PM

I raise the flop almost every time here and call if he pushes. If UTG is really so loose as you say he has hands like AJ/KJ/89 here often enough to take a chance to win a coinflip with a little bit of +EV. Even if he has a set you win about 30% of the time.

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I'd raise turn. Make it $9 to go.

Call shove.

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Villain already went all-in.
Also if played like this, I would call the turn.

Kos13 · #5 09-23-2007, 11:51 PM

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plz raise that flop, as for the turn, i call /pot odds

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Damntra · #6 09-23-2007, 11:53 PM

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I raise the flop almost every time here and call if he pushes. If UTG is really so loose as you say he has hands like AJ/KJ/89 here often enough to take a chance to win a coinflip with a little bit of +EV. Even if he has a set you win about 30% of the time.

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I'd raise turn. Make it $9 to go.

Call shove.

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Villain already went all-in.
Also if played like this, I would call the turn.

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Edited my post in order to have it express what I was thinking as somehow my fingers decided to type "T-U-R-N" instead of "F-L-O-P."

RapidEvolution · #7 09-24-2007, 12:01 AM

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plz raise that flop, as for the turn, i call /pot odds

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Not raising on the flop is a crime!! [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] (Just wanted to add something to the obvious)

Foldem78 · #8 09-24-2007, 12:02 AM

I actually thought the flop call was the only thing i did right?

Damntra · #9 09-24-2007, 12:06 AM

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I actually thought the flop call was the only thing i did right?

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Why do you think you did that right as opposed to everything else?

chopsticks · #10 09-24-2007, 12:11 AM

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I actually thought the flop call was the only thing i did right?

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You have a monster draw here with tons of outs and two cards to come so getting as much money in as possible is the most +EV move.

Next time raise the flop and call if villain pushes. You will get a maximum value for your flush/trips/two pairs/rr straight. If you only call and the turn comes a third heart, you wont get much action from hands like QQ which you would have been ahead on the flop anyways.