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Old 09-22-2007, 05:41 PM
Crusher19 Crusher19 is offline
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Default top pair and flush draw

im in middle position have an ok image folds to me i raise with QJh, tightest old man in the 30-60 in the early morning at belagio 3 bets im positive he has AA KK or QQ seen him smooth call with AK and JJ earlier. bb comes along for 3 bets. flop is J 8h 2h. whats my plan for the rest of the hand?
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: top pair and flush draw

If you're so sure of his holding, and yet you have a big draw (14 outs to a flush, 2 pair, or trips), then keep the BB in the hand and play as if you're behind and drawing with a lot of equity. This might involve a flop checkraise. If BB drops out, check and call meekly until you hit a Q, J, or heart.
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Old 09-22-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: top pair and flush draw

If you are 100% sure of your read, then you are about even money.


Board: Jc 8h 2h
Dead:



Board: Jc 8h 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.392% 42.08% 00.31% 388332 2885.67 { QhJh }
Hand 1: 42.827% 42.45% 00.37% 391800 3433.17 { QQ+ }
Hand 2: 14.782% 14.26% 00.52% 131593 4822.17 { 88+, ATs+, KTs+, QJs, }

If you change the BBs range you are a slight favorite.

Board: Jc 8h 2h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.944% 43.74% 00.21% 264222 1249.17 { QhJh }
Hand 1: 41.916% 41.39% 00.53% 250018 3197.67 { QQ+ }
Hand 2: 14.140% 13.57% 00.57% 82005 3415.17 { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AQo+ }
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: top pair and flush draw

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im in middle position have an ok image folds to me i raise with QJh, tightest old man in the 30-60 in the early morning at belagio 3 bets im positive he has AA KK or QQ seen him smooth call with AK and JJ earlier. bb comes along for 3 bets. flop is J 8h 2h. whats my plan for the rest of the hand?

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Check flop. Call if BB folds, raise if BB calls. Check call after that unimproved. I call river unimproved, unless an ace shows. But you should fold since you are so positive about the preflop read.
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