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Old 09-21-2007, 06:59 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

I did not know what to do with AK in this situation.
AKs is a monster, but risking my whole stack by shoving over in first level?
How about calling? If I miss the flop (most of the time) and he bets I have to fold and lose a lot of chips.
I also considered folding to wait for a better spot.
I then decided to let his sharkscope stats tell me what to do.
He had a ROI of 32%, but his sample size was very small, only 200 games played.
What to do here and why?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (8 handed) by Hand Converter CG

UTG+1 (t1420)
MP1 (t900)
MP2 (t3120)
CO (t2120)
Hero (t1470)
SB (t1460)
BB (t1500)
UTG (t1510)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t280</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, hero ??, blinds left to act
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

i cant see him trying to blind steal with this sort of raise. i recently had a similar situation and ran into aa so i advocate folding [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img].
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

Just shove it in. How does someone open for 14xBB with a hand that is crushing AK lol. Shove it and expect A rag to call (esp in a 6.50), then fistpump.
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

I'd probably just call and try to get it in on an A/K/FD flop. I agree that I hate coin flips early on against smaller pairs, so I'd use my position here to see a flop and see what he does.

Alternatively, if I've been running good, I just shove it all in pre flop.
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:29 PM
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Default Re: $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

I fold easy because from my experience huge raises like this usually mean AA or KK by greedy tighters who think everyone is drunk and calls this. Might be different at 6.5 though, and probably is, but AKs with 20 bb is a fold for me here. Also such raises usually mean no FE, so who can invent a reasonable range for him for this to be a profitable push?
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Old 09-21-2007, 10:42 PM
HajiShirazu HajiShirazu is offline
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Default Re: $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

If the guy has a +32% ROI I just fold. While this guy is prob not a 32% winner, the odds of him being a big donkey are very low having that % over 200 tournies.
Against randoms I shove every time, you get small paired sometimes but I see QJ and stuff all the time here.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:34 AM
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Default Re: $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

How did he lose his chips? I'd want to know that first. If I hadn't been watching, I'd have the HH up real fast, working out how he chipped down. Then the decision should be fairly easy, because the number of ways a decent player can be under 1000 chips at t20 is fairly small.
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Old 09-22-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

I shove in a second. From experience this is AJ/AQ more than AA/KK. Anyway. AA/KK is less likely, because we got one of the cards. Probably a medium-pair
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Old 09-22-2007, 02:59 AM
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Default Re: $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

If you know how to play late game when the blinds are up, this is an easy fold. If you like to gamble and are just learning the game easy call.
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Old 09-22-2007, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: $6.5 - AKs vs 14x BB raise

Against low statkes players you have to be careful about their ROI on sharkscope. If they play the 180 man SnGs (like the $4 ones) they can have extremely large ROIs compared to normal 1 table games.
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