$1M deepstack : flush + gutshot draw following multiway overbet

[baltostar]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $25/$50
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $3545
UTG+1: $4670
MP1: $5360
MP2: $8735
BALTOSTAR: $2480
CO: $3550
Button: $3090
SB: $4180
BB: $4275

Pre-flop: (9 players) BALTOSTAR is MP3 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, BALTOSTAR calls, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($300, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $450</font>, MP1 folds, BALTOSTAR

[timex]

Call, and I don't think its close

[baltostar]

Considering hero does not have nut flush draw, and considering CO (and maybe SB BB) could come over the top, wouldn't a fold be included in the mix ?

[bagclip2007]

fold a gut shot and a fd adfhadfkha'dfhadkf u must be crazy

[baltostar]

Let's say we call and hit our flush, what then ? What if villain bets into us? What villain check-raises ?

[nath]

What is this "deepstack" bull [censored]? You have 50BB. Shove.

[nath]

By the way, you are a giant scared nit based on your posts in this thread.

[AcTiOnJaCsOn]

ya just call i mean if u get it in its not bad since ur equity vrs any range is good butcalling is a better option, not a bad thing to have ther people come along with u either.

[baltostar]

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What is this "deepstack" bull [censored]? You have 50BB. Shove.

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Shove 50bb at 3 good outs ???? Maybe less than 3 outs since 9 definitely figures into villains' hands.

Nut flush or even 2nd nut fd is almost always calling.

I think we can play better poker than having to throw our stack at 2-3 good outs.

[cobrakai111]

why are you calling preflop if a flop like this isn't good enough for your suited connectors?