i now set mine with KK @ 50 NL

keepitreal · #1 09-20-2007, 07:57 PM

ok seriously, there are exceptions vs crazy donks, but im losing way too much money KK v AA.

anybody else not get excited anymore when they see KK in the hole?

do people muck it a lot on a flop that was just 3 bet preflop but cbet hard? i know there are other possibilities, but its turning up AA way more than QQ or an equal KK and i truly believe unless i know a player to be a total donk, its in my best interest to not like KK.

bottomset · #2 09-20-2007, 08:04 PM

lol

do you have a 2% pfr?

Fiasco · #3 09-20-2007, 08:08 PM

depends on how the flop comes down. Ive gotten away from KK once postflop cause the guy had tight numbers and the flop came Q high. I think those high cards that you WERE beating (Qs Js or Ts on the flop) really help you to get away from the KK postflop.

That being said, unless the guy has some decent stats Im just gonna get the money in preflop a lot of the time.

QTip · #4 09-20-2007, 08:09 PM

I actually make money with KK vs AA, which is why I still raise PF.

CalledDownLight · #5 09-20-2007, 08:20 PM

Now this is definitely keepin it real. I salivate over JJ because people stack off so light at nl50. Don't model your game after futilewar and you'll be fine.

coordi · #6 09-20-2007, 08:38 PM

People are calling 3bets more pre than 4 betting at lower limits. KK is still my 2nd highest earner though...

TheBad · #7 09-20-2007, 08:38 PM

Sometimes i´d wish multitabling would be limited to 4 tables because of this - but then again KK is more profitable for me than AA right now. Guess a K on the flop is not that scary..

Chargers In 07 · #8 09-20-2007, 08:43 PM

I think you're overexagerating a bit but w/e. If you get 4-bet KK probably isn't good at the $50.

ps: who is in your avatar at stars? i've always wondered...

boston · #9 09-20-2007, 08:45 PM

how many hands is this KK sample over? I wouldnt worry too much if your Ks have ran into aces a few times it happens.

keepitreal · #10 09-20-2007, 09:08 PM

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I think you're overexagerating a bit but w/e. If you get 4-bet KK probably isn't good at the $50.

ps: who is in your avatar at stars? i've always wondered...

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its jim valvano

also...
i realize i play a lot of hands so it is bound to happen, but i really think there is a legit argument in finding better spots. if i add up the BIs i've lost with KK to AA, i'd probably be on a month long vacation right now with a high class prostitute.