WCOOP 530 hand v. Bel0wAb0Ve, interesting choice on each street

Clayton · #1 09-20-2007, 11:54 AM

Bel0w just got moved to my table 4 or 5 orbits ago, and is playing standard Bel0w style. Lots of raises in EP for 2.5x, and generally being very lag preflop but I haven't seen him make any big postflop decisions yet because he's never really seen a flop yet. His stack has fluctuated a large amount due to 3betting a lot, losing and winning some flips, etc. Standard Bel0w.

However, around 4 hands prior to this hand, he doubled up through a table moron by shoving TT for around 15x after the moron limped, and the moron called with A9s. After that Bel0w won a few more pots so now he has a lot of chips (almost 50bb) to throw around, and I think in his mind the only people that will mess with him are DF_Newb (2 to Below's left) and myself (because I'm table chipleader and have been aggressive).

The flatcaller is a really poor player.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t4000 (9 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

CO (t74,172)
Hero (t338,675)
SB (t181,412)
BB (t242,529)
UTG (t59,413)
UTG+1 (t162,934)
Bel0wAb0ve (t182,500)
MP2 (t128,261)
MP3 (t51,828)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
2 folds, Bel0wAb0ve raises to t9,600, 2 folds, CO calls t9,600, Hero calls t9,600, 2 folds.

Flop: (t32,000) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Bel0wAb0ve bets t17,500, CO folds, Hero calls t17,500.

Turn: (t67,000) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Bel0wAb0ve checks, Hero checks.

River: (t67,000) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Bel0wAb0ve bets t27,500 w/ 130k behind

DDBeast · #2 09-20-2007, 02:17 PM

I call. He probably puts you on a K and there's a good chance you didn't improve. He probably bet so little because he wants you to think he's milking you. Either that or he wants you to think that's what he thinks you're thinking. Anyway, you're getting good odds v. an extreme lag.

nath · #3 09-20-2007, 02:47 PM

this is a great spot to squeeze pf

Exitonly · #4 09-20-2007, 02:50 PM

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that was my first thought as well, i didnt think a call was so hot.

MLG · #5 09-20-2007, 02:51 PM

nath,
maybe but you end up getting a lot of chips in when BA has a hand, and you have a hand with decent value that doesnt minds seeing a flop in position. I'd usually just call. As for the hand I think I'd bet the turn and be happy to get it in and hope that BA can't help himself and retardo bluff jams something with outs.

Ansky · #6 09-20-2007, 02:55 PM

seems like a terrible spot to squeeze pf imo...

Hand is too good to fold, but not good enough (or bad enough) to put 35k in either.

TheNewf · #7 09-20-2007, 02:55 PM

Yeah squeeze sounds pretty cool. I'd just fold that flop, as played I have no idea what to do, I guess calling can't be that bad getting such odds but I feel like this is value town an awful lot.

edit: yeah what am I talking about MLG is right.

Ansky · #8 09-20-2007, 02:55 PM

oh and BET CALL THE TURN JESUS

EC10 · #9 09-20-2007, 03:21 PM

yeah i definitely prefer a call pre flop over a squeeze

you definitely [censored] up huge by not betting the turn. why wouldnt you bet turn? not doing so after floating that flop is gross. ur prob not good on the river but you got to it in such a stupid way that we can't even really make a good decision.

Clayton · #10 09-20-2007, 04:23 PM

I actually felt checking the turn was standard, because I couldn't really rep anything to get value for 2 streets, and I wasn't sure how often he makes a retardo semibluff turn shove versus a shove with something that beats me.

I mean, the plan was to bet just about every turn when I flatted the flop, but I was going to check back just about every ace. Given the commentary I guess this is where I went wrong, since I thought the turn was the only non-difficult decision and it appears that is correct for the wrong reason.