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Old 09-21-2007, 07:37 PM
jerryf1914 jerryf1914 is offline
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Default put in very tough spot against complete idiot

here are some previous hands this session against this villian. he has been running 80/70 betting every flop and almost never folding.

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $38.60
BB: $25.00
nutcase (UTG): $26.90
Hero (MP): $31.90
CO: $59.50
BTN: $28.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">nutcase raises to $1.00</font>, Hero folds, CO calls $1.00, BTN folds, SB calls $0.90, BB folds

Flop: ($3.25) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">nutcase bets $5.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $36.00</font>, SB folds, nutcase calls all-in for $20.90
Uncalled bet of $10.10 returned to CO

Turn: ($55.05) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($55.05) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $55.05 ($2.75 Rake)

CO had 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Sixes and Threes) and WON (+$25.40)
nutcase had 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pair, Fives and Threes) and LOST (-$26.90)

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $38.95
BB: $25.00
nutcase (UTG): $16.10
Hero (MP): $32.25
CO: $42.25
BTN: $30.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">nutcase raises to $5.00</font>, Hero folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $13.75</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">nutcase raises all-in to $16.10</font>, CO calls $2.35

Flop: ($32.55) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Turn: ($32.55) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($32.55) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $32.55 ($1.60 Rake)

CO had 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a straight, Nine high) and WON (+$14.85)
nutcase had 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Fives) and LOST (-$16.10)

here is my situation

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $23.10
BB: $24.40
UTG: $42.95
MP: $25.00
nutcase (CO): $27.45
Hero (BTN): $24.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">nutcase raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3.45</font>, 2 folds, nutcase calls $2.60

Flop: ($7.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
nutcase checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $7.25</font>, nutcase calls $7.25

Turn: ($21.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">nutcase bets all-in for $16.75</font>, Hero???
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:40 PM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: put in very tough spot against complete idiot

Hand 3 is, sadly, a fold.
But what were you thinking in hand 1?
A moran raises, you have AJ sooted in position and... fold????
That is really bad.
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:43 PM
jerryf1914 jerryf1914 is offline
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Default Re: put in very tough spot against complete idiot

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Hand 3 is, sadly, a fold.
But what were you thinking in hand 1?
A moran raises, you have AJ sooted in position and... fold????
That is really bad.

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why play 60/30 at best when you can play 80/20?
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:50 PM
TheRenaissance TheRenaissance is offline
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Default Re: put in very tough spot against complete idiot

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Hand 3 is, sadly, a fold.
But what were you thinking in hand 1?
A moran raises, you have AJ sooted in position and... fold????
That is really bad.

[/ QUOTE ]

why play 60/30 at best when you can play 80/20?

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Eh surely you mean 60/40? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Anyways this is a very bad thinking. In poker a 60/40 edge is huge, and (if you somehow were able to accurately get this number) even giving up a 50.5 edge would be bad.
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Old 09-21-2007, 07:54 PM
Perk76 Perk76 is offline
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Default Re: put in very tough spot against complete idiot

I prefer to raise in position against these guys all day long since you isolate them alot and the rest of the table folds. Gives you a better shot the villans money before someone else gets it.

I can find a fold in hand 3 though since any random King or two pair hand has a 1 pair hand smoked, and that board hits his range most likely in this case.
Play as many pots against that type of villan as you can, and AJ in position is definately playable.
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: put in very tough spot against complete idiot

OP, for hand 3, how about, hero makes it $5 pf, hero bets half of villain's remaining stack on flop (about $11, right?), hero auto-calls/shoves any turn with no worries?
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Old 09-21-2007, 08:55 PM
UptownExpress UptownExpress is offline
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Default Re: put in very tough spot against complete idiot

this looks good as long as u fold turn. If he's really nutty u might want to overbet preflop or flop since he's calling any pair or drawl.
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Old 09-21-2007, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: put in very tough spot against complete idiot

hand #1 3bet pf
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why play 60/30

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equity will change once the cards come out on the flop and he is the type of the guy vs who pair is nuts


hand #2 fold
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