Ewwww...

Bill Smith · #1 09-18-2007, 08:22 PM

2nd hand at the table - never seen villian before.

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($11.24)
Hero ($9.90)
BB ($4)
UTG ($7.90)
MP ($16.10)
CO ($0.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises to $0.4, Hero raises to $1.35, 1 fold, Button calls $0.95.

Flop: ($2.80) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2.2, Button calls $2.20.

Turn: ($7.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks?... Button bets $2, Hero?

hennnerz · #2 09-18-2007, 08:31 PM

Urgh, worst turn possible probs.

Call and re-evaluate on river. You still have 5$ ish to push if board pairs and $5 saved if not I would c/f to most bets.

cabdo · #3 09-18-2007, 09:11 PM

Call getting 4.5:1 with great implied odds, shove river if board pairs.

scallop · #4 09-18-2007, 09:15 PM

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Urgh, worst turn possible probs.

Call and re-evaluate on river. You still have 5$ ish to push if board pairs and $5 saved if not I would c/f to most bets.

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There is no re-eval! Call and only proceed if you boat or better.

Student Caine · #5 09-18-2007, 09:28 PM

Question....so if we call the turn and miss the River and he bets enough to shove in our last $5, we are ok folding when we are getting 3+:1?

scallop · #6 09-18-2007, 09:29 PM

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Question....so if we call the turn and miss the River and he bets enough to shove in our last $5, we are ok folding when we are getting 3+:1?

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Do you think we are winning this hand >25% UI ?

Student Caine · #7 09-18-2007, 09:33 PM

Dunno'..that's why i asked to be honest.

What hand range do we like for our villain here?

spivey · #8 09-18-2007, 09:35 PM

Call and boat, obv. Open shove if you boat (I hope this is obvious).

Bill Smith · #9 09-18-2007, 09:37 PM

The hand continues...

Absolute Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ($11.24)
Hero ($9.90)
BB ($4)
UTG ($7.90)
MP ($16.10)
CO ($0.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises to $0.4, Hero raises to $1.35, 1 fold, Button calls $0.95.

Flop: ($2.80) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $2.2, Button calls $2.20.

Turn: ($7.20) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2, Hero calls $2.

River: ($11.20) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.3...

Student Caine · #10 09-18-2007, 09:45 PM

So let me ask this then...if we put villain on a range of say AKs, AK, QQ, JJ, AQ, AQs, KQs, KQ, QJs, QJ we have the following equity right now:

Board: Kh Jh 9d Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.828% 31.01% 01.82% 614 36.00 { KcKs }
Hand 1: 67.172% 65.35% 01.82% 1294 36.00 { QQ-JJ, AQs+, KQs, QJs, AQo+, KQo, QJo }

So we are basically a 2:1 dog right now. If we shove in our last $6.40 we will risk that to win ~$15, which is approximately 2.3:1 against his range. Does this mean that we want to shove here? Or is his range too large (if we drop AK and AKs we are only like 7:3)? Or is the fact that we are getting much better odds to call now (4.5:1) make it worthwhile to call and then fold when we get pushed in at 3:1?