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Old 09-18-2007, 02:59 PM
danjohncochane danjohncochane is offline
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Default Standard line check...

Villian is 25/17/2(2K) - Haven't played with him much but i get the feeling he could be a good LAG. Haven't tangled yet. He is nearly all of my games.

Is this standard given the stack sizes?
He 3bets a fair amount of time but ive never 4bet him.

Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$5
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $232.85
Hero: $876.95
CO: $1151
Button: $249
SB: $583.43
BB: $566.65

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $70</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $345</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $1151</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $806 returned to CO.

Results:
Final pot: $697
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:03 PM
Borned_Luckbox1 Borned_Luckbox1 is offline
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Default Re: Standard line check...

dont't 4-bet
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:03 PM
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Default Re: Standard line check...

this is one awful fold. awful. as in, this sort of fold hurts to the magnitude of likely 10ptbb or thereabout. (that you're giving up)
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:13 PM
danjohncochane danjohncochane is offline
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Default Re: Standard line check...

Oh crap never realised it was that bad. LOL. I just thought i'm beat here most of the time.
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Old 09-18-2007, 03:18 PM
BobboFitos BobboFitos is offline
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Default Re: Standard line check...

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Oh crap never realised it was that bad. LOL. I just thought i'm beat here most of the time.

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well...

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Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 36.585% 35.01% 01.57% 125907060 5645496.00 { JJ }
Hand 1: 63.415% 61.85% 01.57% 222385788 5645496.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }


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who knows if thats accurate (he may be shoving aq, for example) but this is a basic template.

so you're probably "beat" most of the time, yes, but you have 570 in your stack after your bet. you require 30% equity from this point onward; the 6.5% share of the total pot (roughly 1760, or 115ish) is what you've lost out by not calling. thats 22bb, or 11ptbb, so my estimation was fairly close. basically, you committed yourself to the pot, yes, you'rel ikely a ~37% dog to his range here, but folding is worse then calling. (and to whomever said dont 4bet, well, in isolation maybe it's ok, we would need more info)
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Old 09-18-2007, 04:46 PM
Gomer_Pyle Gomer_Pyle is offline
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Default Re: Standard line check...

They never have AQ here and they dont do like this every time they have AK.
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