River in big pot vs unknowns.

[NinaWilliams]

Both are unknown.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $5/$10
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG, folds, CO (poster) checks, Button calls, Hero calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, Button calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (11BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets</font>, Hero

[yourface]

easy easy call

[mvoss]

I call and expect to see some missed draw or random bluff often enough.

[counterspell]

i fold the turn. that line is so strong and ALL the draws hit.

edit: nm i didnt see FD. easy calldown.

[bobhalford]

I'd likely fold, but the pot is so big that could be a mistake. I can't see the button bluffing here versus the preflop raiser and the flop raiser. If we didn't have the Qd I'd fold to the turn raise.

[milesdyson]

his button limp behind a poster is more likely to come from a passive player. my estimate is we are good maybe 3-5% of the time. i'd fold here even vs. an unknown.

[yourface]

I misread the hand initially but I still call
I think that an unknown has the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or 8x (esp with a diamond) enough of the time

[milesdyson]

yeah that is a pretty bold+retarded semibluff 3-way and then an even bolder+retardeder river bluff 3-way so i'm discounting the possibility of those hands by about 100%. the only way you're good is against a worse 9 which for some reason only called the flop and then raised the world's worst turn against two players who have shown strength earlier in the hand.

[Oink]

Miles.

You dont think he has 98, 87, Ad9, Ad7, Ad6, Kd9, Kd7, Kd6 or just Adx enough for hero to call this river?

I am never folding here and I of course think your 3-5% is too low.

[milesdyson]

i discount any hand w/ Ad a lot because he failed to raise preflop on the button vs. a poster and for reasons above (it being a clearly ridiculous play on the turn and river). any worse 9 i discount quite a bit for the flop play (and again the combination of not raising this flop and then raising this turn is quite unlikely with this hand).

also Ad9/Kd9 beats us.

(so no [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img])