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Old 09-15-2007, 11:10 PM
hanning hanning is offline
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Default NL25 - TPWK on a flush draw flop, do you make this move on turn

I have been working on getting more aggressive in my play - but in reviewing this hand I am not sure if this was agressive or just bad (right now I am leaning towards bad).

I think the flop bet is ok.
Do you call/fold/raise villains re-raise on flop?
What do you think about the turn?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($10.20)
Button ($9.90)
SB ($23.20)
Hero ($28.25)
UTG ($13.40)
UTG+1 ($6.95)
MP1 ($42.20)
MP2 ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.25, MP2 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($1.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $3</font>, MP2 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $2.

Turn: ($7.10) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25</font>, MP1 calls $20.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:25 PM
Chargers In 07 Chargers In 07 is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - TPWK on a flush draw flop, do you make this move on turn

fold the flop. your goal is to get to showdown cheap with these types of hands not get aggressive and play for stacks.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:28 PM
justscott justscott is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - TPWK on a flush draw flop, do you make this move on turn

Those junk hands will just get you stacked.
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:31 PM
ranka ranka is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - TPWK on a flush draw flop, do you make this move on turn

I would check the flop.

As played, fold to reraise.
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:38 AM
Keyser112 Keyser112 is offline
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Default Re: NL25 - TPWK on a flush draw flop, do you make this move on turn

your turn raise was terrible; call if you need to stay in the hand for implied odds on draws otherise you should be odne with the hand.

a strong argument would have you folding on the raise on the flop too
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:38 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - TPWK on a flush draw flop, do you make this move on turn

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your turn raise was terrible; call if you need to stay in the hand for implied odds on draws otherise you should be odne with the hand.

a strong argument would have you folding on the raise on the flop too

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but it's 3:40am on saturday and i'm wasted sto don't follow my advice
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Old 09-16-2007, 03:58 AM
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Default Re: NL25 - TPWK on a flush draw flop, do you make this move on turn

The flop bet is ok but once u get raised u should fold most of the time wo read. Please don't stop leading or c/ring when u have TP in an unraised pot.

The flop call is awfull. U don't have many outs. Sometimes u'll be against a FD and ahead but most of the time u'll be oop and drawing nearly dead or to 3 outs.

The turn c/rai is awfull at NL25. You really need some FE and I'll be quit surprised if vilain fold more than 10% of the time here. U are only ahead of a fastplayed FD. Honestly I wouldn't mind the c/rai against a NL100/200 regular because he would fold anything but a set here but I'm not sure that a player with TPGK would fold often enough at NL25 to make this EV+.

I would bet 5 because I don't want to give up my hand (the turn card is nearly the best i could be hopping for) and want to price draws while I still have some kind of equity against most of his range. I would fold to a push.
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