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Old 09-13-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default NL10 JJ 4-way pot with shortie all-in

I'm at work, so I'm reconstructing this hand from memory. All reads were over a short sample of about 30 hands.

Important stacks/reads:

MP (65/20/2): $10.70
CO (45/8/0.8): $12.20
BTN (Hero): $35.50
BB (unknown): $ 1.50

Absolute 0.10/0.20 NL

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG folds, MP raises to 0.20, CO calls, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB pushes all-in for $1.50, MP calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

(My 3-bet could've been slightly bigger, but it wouldn't have changed the end result. Can't re-open the action after shortie moves all-in)

Flop: ($6.00) 6 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
MP bets $1.50, CO raises all-in to $10.70, Hero...?
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:25 PM
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Default Re: NL10 JJ 4-way pot with shortie all-in

Fold on the flop.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: NL10 JJ 4-way pot with shortie all-in

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Fold on the flop.

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I'm thinking that Shorty makes that reraise with a wide range of hands and there's a good change we're ahead against him. If anyone else is ahead of OP, they're not giving us a compelling reason to fold. I could raise all in once the action gets to me. It's quite likely we get heads up against Shorty with a lot of dead money in the middle.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: NL10 JJ 4-way pot with shortie all-in

instantshovepreflop
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:38 PM
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Default Re: NL10 JJ 4-way pot with shortie all-in

Oh, and as played, I'd fold the flop.

I agree with Perk in that folding>calling after the short stack shoves. But OP shoving>OP folding.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: NL10 JJ 4-way pot with shortie all-in

you can't be serious. call flop.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: NL10 JJ 4-way pot with shortie all-in

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As I mentioned in the original post, the all-in bet from BB was too small to allow me to reraise when action got back to me. The only options software allowed were call & fold.
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:44 PM
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:48 PM
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Default Re: NL10 JJ 4-way pot with shortie all-in

Add AA/QQ/AcKc/AcAc to the hand ranges, MP didnt get a chance to reraise due to the all in preflop, and big suited cards are favored over JJ at this point also.

Whats the % after widening the range?
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Old 09-13-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: NL10 JJ 4-way pot with shortie all-in

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 49.911% 47.64% 02.27% 49995 2381.50 { JcJs }
Hand 1: 50.089% 47.82% 02.27% 50182 2381.50 { 44+, A6s, 86s, 76s, 65s, 54s, A6o, 86o, 76o, 65o, 54o }



Hand 0: 45.771% 43.39% 02.38% 40810 2237.50 { JcJs }
Hand 1: 54.229% 51.85% 02.38% 48765 2237.50 { TT+, 77-44, AcKc, A6s, 86s, 76s, 65s, 54s, A6o, 86o, 76o, 65o, 54o }
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