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#1
09-12-2007, 03:47 AM
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NL25 - had odds?
Ok, did I have odds to call? how u play that hand with a gut shot and 2 over cards?
vilain 31/20/2 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) SB ($47.60) BB ($27.25) Hero ($25.65) MP ($24.65) Button ($54.55) Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $3.5</font>, Hero calls $2.50. Flop: ($7.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3.5</font>, Hero calls $3.50. Turn: ($14.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $9</font>, Hero folds. Final Pot: $14.10 
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#3
09-12-2007, 04:04 AM
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Re: NL25 - had odds?
I don't like calling the flop. Basically you are hoping for 1 of 3 cards on the turn, since you don't like Jc either. That surely doesn't give you the odds to call.
You might raise the flop, since his bet is somewhat weak, but some more information about villains betting and 3betting tendencies would be nice there. If you don't like this, I would definitely prefer folding to calling. Have you been in any 3bet before with villain?
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#4
09-12-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: NL25 - had odds?
nopz, hadnt!
i will start raising flop in spots like these; TY. but, what is standard pre flop? raising or calling? is it correct to go all in pre flop with AKs, cause if I 4bet think he will prob push, and if he calls Ill be in really bad shape...
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#5
09-12-2007, 02:24 PM
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Re: NL25 - had odds?
raise or fold flop. I fold. you are ~8% to hit your gut shot on turn so thats like what 9:1, villain is giving you 3:1 with obvious implied odds on the gutter ball but not enough to make this call profitable IMO.
Had you made this raise in the CO or Button and had been laggro lately, i would say 4bet the flop. but BB is 3 betting your UTG raise, that tightens his range a great deal. so much so that i don't think you can be at all comfortable labeling your clean turn outs above 4.
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#8
09-12-2007, 04:54 PM
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Re: NL25 - had odds?
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What! I convince myself I have 10 outs and call this flop all day. He only bet half the pot, and got like $20+ behind. [/ QUOTE ] lol thats what I thought... dont like raising cause I get commited... dont like folding cause its pretty WEAK... fold for a weak bet like that imagine he bets with like evereything.... I dont know
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