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Old 10-21-2007, 04:52 PM
praios praios is offline
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Default tripps villian takes super tricky line can i fold the river?

Party Poker, $5/$10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $1,028
MP: $1,000
CO: $1,807
BTN: $1,292
SB: $997
BB: $1,051

Pre-Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (UTG)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $34</font>, 4 folds, BB calls $24

Flop: ($73) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($73) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $51</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $165</font>, Hero calls $114

River: ($403) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $241</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $852 and is All-In</font>, Hero ???

drdr88 is villian a regular tag
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:40 PM
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Default Re: tripps villian takes super tricky line can i fold the river?

If he trapped you with set then WP &amp; reload.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:42 PM
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Default Re: tripps villian takes super tricky line can i fold the river?

after half potting river there is no way you can fold. lots of draws bricked.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: tripps villian takes super tricky line can i fold the river?

He took a great line with whatever imho.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: tripps villian takes super tricky line can i fold the river?

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He took a great line with whatever imho.

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line sucks with a bluff. its excellent for value.
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: tripps villian takes super tricky line can i fold the river?

I think it's a good line as a bluff if hero is considering folding AK here.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:18 PM
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Default Re: tripps villian takes super tricky line can i fold the river?

Its a good bluffing line because hero`s vbetting range is really slim here. He pretty much either has air or a monster when he bets the river.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: tripps villian takes super tricky line can i fold the river?

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Its a good bluffing line because hero`s vbetting range is really slim here. He pretty much either has air or a monster when he bets the river.

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How does this make it a good bluffing spot on the river? I would have said the opposite. Do you consider hero's hand a monster here?
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:53 PM
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Its a good bluffing line because hero`s vbetting range is really slim here. He pretty much either has air or a monster when he bets the river.

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How does this make it a good bluffing spot on the river? I would have said the opposite. Do you consider hero's hand a monster here?

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Yea. W/ monster I mean exactly trip kings.

I dont see your problem with my argument. If hero bets the river he should have a missed draw a lot so villain goes ahead and c/r bluffs him off it. When villain just bets his air on the river he has to expect to get looked up very lightly (even ace high may call) or get bluff/raised back. Which part you disagree with?
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:08 PM
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Default Re: tripps villian takes super tricky line can i fold the river?

I just don't see why hero's range being polarized makes this a good bluff. Obviously the more potential hands hero folds the better the bluff, but I don't see why his range being polarized would make his folding percentage higher. Surely villain would like hero to be folding part of his value betting range rather than just his bluffs(this is more of a generalization rather than a statement about the hand in question).

I think hero has close to the top of his range here and he wants to fold it, which would make it a very good bluffing opportunity. On the other hand I don't think I'd expect somebody in hero's spot to fold KQ+ unless I had some sort of read on them, would you agree?
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