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Old 09-11-2007, 01:18 PM
pureklas pureklas is offline
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Default NL400: Allin on open end draw, Line check

Villain is unknown to me. I've only played about 20 hands with him and he hasn't done anything of note. I am just making the transition from 1/2 to 2/4 and would like comments on my thought process and bet sizing.

Pf I would mix it up between calling and 3 betting (villain dependent). In this case with there being less money in the pot, with there being no small blind, I felt calling to be the best option. When checked to me on the flop, its an easy bet but was my bet size a little weak? I though it weird that villain checked raise me on such a drawy board. I felt he would bet most hands on such a board not wanting to run the risk of giving a free card to a straight draw. So his check raise to me was either a set or a play because my bet was weakish. Thoughts? Normally 2 overs plus open ender is an easy shove - was pushing the correct play if I think villain either has a set or a bluff?

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4.
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $333.40
CO: $372
Button: $206.60
HERO: $456.60
BB: $430.90

Pre-flop: (5 players) HERO is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $12</font>, 2 folds, HERO calls, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($36, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">HERO bets $24</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $75</font>, <font color="#cc0000">HERO raises all-in $444.6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG calls all-in $321.4</font>.


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Old 09-11-2007, 01:43 PM
runningirl07 runningirl07 is offline
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Default Re: NL400: Allin on open end draw, Line check

I would bet more like $32 and probably just call the raise and see a turn. I don't think your hand deserves a push here versus an unknown. Wait till you know the player a little more to make this play.
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Old 09-11-2007, 01:59 PM
$upermad4it $upermad4it is offline
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Default Re: NL400: Allin on open end draw, Line check

yeah I dont think you have any real FE for the shove - but isn't a fold better than a call here assuming villain wont give a free card on the turn?
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:02 PM
DrMagic DrMagic is offline
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Default Re: NL400: Allin on open end draw, Line check

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Pf I would mix it up between snapfolding and 3 instafolding (villain dependent).

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fyp

As played just call the cr, you have position, he will likely slow down with most of his bluffs so you can fold to a turn bet UI most of the time
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Old 09-11-2007, 03:09 PM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
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Default Re: NL400: Allin on open end draw, Line check

UTG is almost always huge here and never folding.

He's got like 80 BBs, which makes it close I think, but probably it's a fold to his raise on the flop. If stacks were 100BBs I would call and spike the 8 outer.
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Old 09-11-2007, 04:54 PM
pureklas pureklas is offline
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Default Re: NL400: Allin on open end draw, Line check

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Pf I would mix it up between snapfolding and 3 instafolding (villain dependent).

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fyp

As played just call the cr, you have position, he will likely slow down with most of his bluffs so you can fold to a turn bet UI most of the time

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you fold KQos on the btn 5 handed? Care to tell me why?
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:01 PM
FireStorm FireStorm is offline
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Default Re: NL400: Allin on open end draw, Line check

Lead the flop for $28, call the raise. Shoving is yuck because you have little FE.
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Old 09-11-2007, 05:07 PM
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Default Re: NL400: Allin on open end draw, Line check

thats some mongoloid action right there. sb acts first postflop iirc.
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