$6 turbo - J7o push?

[badonkadonk]

blinds are getting big. these guys have been aggressive, stealing blinds, no one really making any calls. Is this a push?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB (t2715)
BB (t3550)
Hero (t7235)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, 7.
<font color="CC3333">Hero raises to t6050</font>

[TheLoveDoctor]

I fold this. J7o easily way behind your opponents calling ranges. No need to risk half your stack with this hand. Wait for a better spot, you still have more than 10bb and can afford to either let them knock each other out or push with a better hand.

[BradleyT]

I'd usually push this if they're folding at all. The 900 in blinds they posted is 15% of their combined stacks. Just a few steals cripples them so badly.

[RobTheCrook]

This is a push.

Their ranges are not as big as they seem because you have them in a folding battle with each other. I'd expect this to be fairly +EV.

[donkeykong2]

stack sizes are good with bb little bigger than sb, i push this.

[pifhluk]

Push, they would have to be making fairly loose calls for normal players to fold this.

[plexiq]

I dont think this is a push. Its quite close tho. (Calculator gives me J8o as borderline hand.)

(SnGPT tells me its an ATC push with the call ranges from above, but it ignores future action as far as i know?)

Keep in mind that SB/BB will end up all-in against each other about 40% of the time in the case you fold. This is seriously +$EV for you, without any risk.

[donkeykong2]

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I dont think this is a push. Its quite close tho. (Calculator gives me J8o as borderline hand.)

(SnGPT tells me its an ATC push with the call ranges from above, but it ignores future action as far as i know?)

Keep in mind that SB/BB will end up all-in against each other about 40% of the time in the case you fold. This is seriously +$EV for you, without any risk.

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yeah but that will only happen if they re competent players, watch them limp and check down those.

lol i oversaw the read he gave... sorry

[Nivek24]

I"m not sure that pushing is the best move, but even if its not its certainly not a horrible move. With their stack sizes this looks like a good time to put pressure on them tho.

You actually might want to make a raise, but not all-in. Not so that you can fold if one goes all-in, that would obviously be stupid, but so you mix it up a little bit. It's a lot easier for a player to just push "call" rather than to actually push all-in when he knows he'll get called. Maybe you can make a raise to like 2000, and he might just fold more hands than to a push.