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Old 09-10-2007, 09:36 PM
Tooty816 Tooty816 is offline
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Default KK on dry board 2 buyins deep. Turn slightly scary Still pound away?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $421.00
BB: $196.00
UTG: $157.30
CO: $443.95
BTN: $216.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $27.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $19.00

Flop: ($56) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $46.00</font>, CO calls $46.00

Turn: ($148) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero wtf?</font>

Villain is standard tag 22/15/2 over 1.3k hands. We haven't tangoed much. He saw me stack off with QQ overpair on 664 board vs a TT just a few hands before. I realize the turn isn't that scary, but given the amount of stack we have behind us, I was wary of betting strong mainly because AK won't pay me off, JJ caught a set, TT won't pay me off, and he might have slowplayed a 9 or 33.

What's your action on the turn and why?
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: KK on dry board 200 buyins deep. Turn not scary. Still pound away?

Checkraise all in? I think his range is tilted towards 77+. Checking gives you most value i guess as you can either trap him now or vbet the river if he checks behind.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:47 PM
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Default Re: KK on dry board 200 buyins deep. Turn not scary. Still pound away?

What am I beating if he calls my turn crai? small pockets aren't betting in this huge pot.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:50 PM
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Default Re: KK on dry board 200 buyins deep. Turn not scary. Still pound away?

200 buyins deep I could probably fold this. But 2 buyins deep there's no way. CRAI and get called by QQ, any random hearts, TT probably. People will talk themselves into bad calls if you just give them a big call to make.
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: KK on dry board 200 buyins deep. Turn not scary. Still pound away?

lol. i changed it to 2 buyins deep [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 09-10-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: KK on dry board 200 buyins deep. Turn not scary. Still pound away?

c/r all-in looks good and the stack a donk line looks so fishy in the heat of the moment that you'd be suprised what some people will call you with.
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: KK on dry board 200 buyins deep. Turn not scary. Still pound away?

I like the check/raise AI. I think it's pretty likely that he's either floating or has a marginal hand (ie. TT). So, check, raise all in if he bets or if he checks behind just vb river.

Betting again is also an option but a sticky spot if he raises (though I rarely get away here I think).
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: KK on dry board 200 buyins deep. Turn not scary. Still pound away?

CRAI
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: KK on dry board 200 buyins deep. Turn not scary. Still pound away?

man everyone loves the check raise all in. I guess we'll go with that next time!
Here's what happened. What's your action on the river?





Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

Hero (SB): $421.00
BB: $196.00
UTG: $157.30
CO: $443.95
BTN: $216.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8.00</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $27.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $19.00

Flop: ($56) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $46.00</font>, CO calls $46.00

Turn: ($148) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $80.00</font>, CO calls $80.00

River: ($308) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero?</font>,
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Old 09-11-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: KK on dry board 200 buyins deep. Turn not scary. Still pound away?

What a [censored] river. Boards gotten really scary (for both of you). If he isn't full, he has to be afraid you are a good % of the time...and I can't ever imagine him turning TT into a bluff here. Honestly, I prob C/F.
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