Turns a boat, but does villain have a better one?

[Orsman]

This is the 2nd orbit of my session and haven't got any reads.

After the turn I thought I had the best hand and let him bluff/valuebet with a Kx hand on the river and then go for a decent c/r. I'm not sure about my fold but this is way more often TT/88 than Kx/bluff/8x?

200NL , hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | <font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($304.55)
SB Hero ($204.80)
BB ($33.64)
UTG <font color="#C00000">UTG ($428.05)</font>
UTG+1 ($186.90)

Preflop: Hero is in the SB with 5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to 8.00, 2 folds, Hero calls 7.00, 1 fold.

Flop (18.00) 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn (18.00) 5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG checks.

River (18.00) K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero checks, UTG bets 16.00, Hero raises to 50.00, UTG moves all-in for 404.05, 1 fold

[deaders]

Nope never folding, I bet the turn also.

[Nielsio]

Lead the turn and don't fold. As played, this looks like a fold.

[13_Xerxes]

I bet the turn, and probably go broke 100BB deep. Hi TT/88 [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[AaronOC]

if you were deeper i could see an argument for folding but never for 100bbs

[Nielsio]

Given he's unknown it might be a mistake to fold as played, though yeah. Some ppl are so stupid as to think 8x is the nuts and will slowplay three streets; but it's pretty thin.

[docnuclear]

agreed w/ everyone, too shaloww to fold any boat, even though you will be behind quite a bit.

[tiger_hall]

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Lead the turn and don't fold. As played, this looks like a fold.

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[HoldEmNewby]

for 100BB's you need to go broke here.

Bet the turn bro, I'd even make a fake probe bet of $8, try to get him to go into bluff mode because you're feigning weakness; or just value bet 12.

River question: do you think he calls a value check-raise more often than a bluffy raise-allin?

[nortonmalc]

As played, am I the only one who sees the villian with AK, KT or A8 more times than TT, KK, T8 or K8?

Personally, I bet the flop. It's not that likely that a hand with an 8 or T raises UTG, but premium pairs, AK, and AQ certainly do. If you get re-raised, fold. You may knock out some of the AK, AQ hands than can easily draw out on you. If you get cold called on the flop, you are now in a good position to get it in on the turn against a premium pair when you hit your boat. I don't think opponent has 88/TT/T8 enough times to make any fold on the turn reasonable. If you don't hit your boat after the cold call it's check/fold the turn or river.