AJs - from great to puke

Riku · #1 09-07-2007, 05:59 AM

Both players are unknown.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. MP2 posts a blind of $0.75.
UTG raises, 2 folds, MP1 calls, MP2 (poster) calls, 3 folds, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG raises, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, SB 3-bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (9.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, UTG raises, SB 3-bets, Hero is starting to think there might be a boat out there.

Fantam · #2 09-07-2007, 09:21 AM

I must admit that it does look as though one of them could have a boat.

Even if UTG was overplaying AK or AA (as opposed to having KK), it looks as though SB's most likely hand is 88.

Sushiglutton · #3 09-07-2007, 10:36 AM

We are getting 15.75:2 and we may get capped -> 17.75:3. UTG's range is AA, KK or AK, 88 and pretty much nothing else. SB could hold K8s, 88, 85s, AK, 55. I think 3-betting the turn is very aggro for SB with both AK and K8s, since the pair of fives counterfeit his two-pair and he must put UTG on the range I gave above (if he thinks this far).
But I have seen not too few retarded plays on stars .5/1. Everyone is not excactly playing solidly there, even if players are pretty tight pf. This is very close. I think I'm leaning towards a call.

CrMenace · #4 09-07-2007, 10:57 AM

So your outs may be dirty, but you're going to get 17:2 or 19:3 odds on this call. I think this 6:1 to 8:1 makes up for your discounted flush outs. I don't give up just yet.