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Old 09-06-2007, 11:08 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default A couple of annoying spots with JJ

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $212.07
BB: $470.37
Hero (UTG): $167.05
CO: $315.00
BTN: $194.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $7.00, BB folds

Flop: ($18) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $24.00</font>, Hero calls $12.00

Turn: ($66) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $30.00</font>, Hero calls $30.00

River: ($126) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $62.00</font>, Hero calls??

Villain is a 57/20/1 over 1000 datamined hands.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $78.58
BB: $197.25
Hero (UTG): $198.00
CO: $197.20
BTN: $197.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00, BTN folds, SB calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($23) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, CO calls $14.00, SB folds

Turn: ($51) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $37.00</font>, CO calls $37.00

River: ($125) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero ??? ($140 behind)</font>

Villain is a 39/9/0.74 typical Party donk. I have no idea wtf I'm doing betting $14 on the flop here so ignore that please.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: A couple of annoying spots with JJ

in hand 1, why not move in on the turn?
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: A couple of annoying spots with JJ

1: you have the nuts jay

2: bet more on turn as played have to b/c. if you were deeper you could b/f
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:26 AM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Re: A couple of annoying spots with JJ

Shove turn

shovel river
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: A couple of annoying spots with JJ

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Shove turn

shovel river

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Old 09-06-2007, 11:28 AM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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Default Re: A couple of annoying spots with JJ

I would also bet more on flop and turn in 2nd.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:40 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: A couple of annoying spots with JJ

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1: you have the nuts jay

2: bet more on turn as played have to b/c. if you were deeper you could b/f

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1 - I might be being a giant vag but there are a lot of combos of Ax (and this guy folds none of them pf). I definitely don't think getting the money in is bad, but he definitely has quads a decent amount of the time.

2 - spoke to True on msn and he told me to betfold $60 on the river. Obv I should have bet more on flop and turn, just trying to take the river as an independent situation.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:44 AM
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Default Re: A couple of annoying spots with JJ

Hand 1 is prob a call...I def don't shove

Hand 2- bet more on flop/turn so you can easily shove river...as played 60/fold sounds good.
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Old 09-06-2007, 11:46 AM
Toni Cogin Toni Cogin is offline
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Default Re: A couple of annoying spots with JJ

1: raise flop, plenty fish will 4bet over their 44AAA boat (fish never fold boats) trying to protect, so many overcards for his range, want to get it in asap
2: blockerbet at around 70/75, fold to push-&gt; villain is a passive fish, wont realize your block/valuebetting, he will probably fold tp hands (maybe even two pairz) to push and call if your beat, will never bluff here since he either has a draw or some sort of showdown hand and fish dont think second level
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Old 09-06-2007, 12:32 PM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: A couple of annoying spots with JJ

well true &gt; me i just hate folding, so any excuse not to [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

i thought about 60ish/fold but thought we might be losing a bit of value with our top set. idk.
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