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Old 09-07-2007, 07:00 PM
Spurious Spurious is offline
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Default AKs - One of those combo draws

No reads on villain, but he won some pots recently (4 in the last 7 hands).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($18.20)
SB ($17.20)
BB ($24.90)
UTG ($7.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.20.

Flop: ($4.85) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $2.50.

Turn: ($10.85) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $3.35 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls $3.35.

River: ($0) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $17.55
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:02 PM
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Default Re: AKs - One of those combo draws

well seems fine...
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: AKs - One of those combo draws

Shove or flatcall flop... no reason to leave him with 3.35 in a 10.85 pot. A flop as low as this I shove... If it were something like Q6Q I'd flatcall, because it's a lot more likely we are only called when drawing to 9 outs instead of 15.
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:05 PM
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Default Re: AKs - One of those combo draws

Oh well, maybe you suck him with a smaller raise when he's real stupid... I still prefer a shove
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: AKs - One of those combo draws

if BB has a FD i want him to call, i think a shove is an overbet and commits me. If BB was going for a c/r i would unnecessarily put in a lot of money.
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: AKs - One of those combo draws

A shove commits you allright [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]. Leaves nothing to commit though [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] it's a matter of definition i guess.... haha

A raise also commits you and him though. So you both should know you are playing for stacks and for showdown as soon as you make a raise on this flop. Therefore you might as well get it allin IMO. On the other hand, your opponent might be too stupid to realise this and call a smallish raise to find himself committed at the turn. Not likely though, he'd need to be real stupid and you DO give a free card playing like that.
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: AKs - One of those combo draws

do you realise, that i dont want to play for stacks with BB is still in the hand, therefore i am calling
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: AKs - One of those combo draws

Flop is fine. Depending on villain's range you've got decent odds to call the turn. I think fold or call are both fine here. This is really no big deal imo
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: AKs - One of those combo draws

Though you are getting very good odds to just call the flop to hit your hand, so that also has merit
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Old 09-07-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: AKs - One of those combo draws

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do you realise, that i dont want to play for stacks with BB is still in the hand, therefore i am calling

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You are raising when BB is in the hand, not calling... But I see your point, I misread and see he still has too much left for a push.... Your right.

Also you are not losing equity in a multiway pot, since you have the nut FD. You have 35% equity on the FD alone, maybe more with the overs, so if BB calls you actually gain pot equity: 35% equity when you put in 33% of the money.
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