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Old 08-29-2007, 09:06 PM
chris216 chris216 is offline
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Default NL100 KK gets action 3way

BB is 35/11.5/2.2 over 50 hands.
Button is 40/16/2.3 over 60 hands. No further reads.
Do you call?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($42)
BB ($79.05)
UTG ($113.05)
Hero ($183)
Button ($96.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($12.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $92.1</font>, BB folds, Hero ???
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:16 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: NL100 KK gets action 3way

according to the pokerstove I just ran, I think this is a call:

Board: 3h 4h 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.478% 52.48% 00.00% 7793 0.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 47.522% 47.52% 00.00% 7057 0.00 { TT-99, 33, KhQh, 9h8h, 7h6h, 6h5h }
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:21 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK gets action 3way

The board's just too low for me to fold with kings.

Fat Nicky, why did you pick the hands you did for Poker Stove? I haven't used it much myself. Any reason you didn't include 44 and QQ?
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:24 PM
Fat Nicky Fat Nicky is offline
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Default Re: NL100 KK gets action 3way

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The board's just too low for me to fold with kings.

Fat Nicky, why did you pick the hands you did for Poker Stove? I haven't used it much myself. Any reason you didn't include 44 and QQ?

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figured 1 overpair would be enough to include. also figured 2 out of 3 sets would be enough as well because included all 3 would weigh him having a set too high IMO. then i just included random draws (pair + fd, oesfd, overs+fd, etc).

i probably didn't explain this very well.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK gets action 3way

not including 44 means he never has 44 ehre which is false

you also missed A9hh and A5hh and A2hh
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK gets action 3way

calllll
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK gets action 3way

i'm going to go against the standard here and say fold. you're either close to 50/50 against the nfd, behind against a huge draw, or behind against 2 pair and a set. i can't think of a single hand except for a poorly played overpair that you're well ahead of. villain also cant have khqh as we have the kh in our hand which actually gives us about 5% more equity against the draws. i also dont think your range for villain is entirely accurate. you're missing the 2 pair hands, and i think this is actually waited more towards big hands and big draws than marginal draws and marginal made hands.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:34 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK gets action 3way

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i'm going to go against the standard here and say fold. you're either close to 50/50 against the nfd, behind against a huge draw, or behind against 2 pair and a set. i can't think of a single hand except for a poorly played overpair that you're well ahead of. villain also cant have khqh as we have the kh in our hand which actually gives us about 5% more equity against the draws. i also dont think your range for villain is entirely accurate. you're missing the 2 pair hands, and i think this is actually waited more towards big hands and big draws than marginal draws and marginal made hands.

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Uh, pot odds n stuff. I'd sigh and get the $$ in.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: NL100 KK gets action 3way

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not including 44 means he never has 44 ehre which is false

you also missed A9hh and A5hh and A2hh

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you're right. here is the new stove calc...

Board: 3h 4h 9c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.590% 46.59% 00.00% 9686 0.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 53.410% 53.41% 00.00% 11104 0.00 { TT-99, 44-33, Ah9h, Ah2h, KhQh, Th9h, 9h8h, 7h6h, 6h5h }


still a call given the money already in the pot.
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Old 08-30-2007, 12:09 AM
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Default Re: NL100 KK gets action 3way

the stoving is still wrong. If hero has the Kh villain can't also have it. zomg
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