25nl, KK river recision

DopamineRelease · #1 08-29-2007, 04:10 PM

Villain is 24/15/1.5 over 40 hands. Probably should have gone with $1.50 on the flop. Comments on all streets welcome but I am really wondering about the river.

Am I wrong to think that villian is betting for value? The only busted draw I see him betting here is 10 J and I don't know why he would play it like this. That leads me to believe he has a big hand here. I think we can only call or fold river. What kind of range can we put him on in this spot? Thanks

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $25.00
BB: $35.35
UTG: $29.55
MP: $25.00
Hero (CO): $24.60
BTN: $25.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.35, BB calls $1.35

Turn: ($4.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3.25, BB calls $3.25

River: ($11) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB bets $7.50, Hero ????

Pot Size: $26.00 ($1.30 Rake)

PleasureGuy69 · #2 08-29-2007, 04:17 PM

He's pretty passive... could this be some sort of blocking bet with AQ, KQ? if he had 99,55, Q9Ss, you'd think he'd c/r the turn?

Ramana · #3 08-29-2007, 04:21 PM

I call, you just counterfeited some 2p combos, a missed draw could bet into you, he could use the 6 as a scare card. His range is much much wider than just sets or 78 or a 6.

nexah3 · #4 08-29-2007, 04:26 PM

You're probably still good here; I'd just call though.

Zach Belden · #5 08-29-2007, 04:31 PM

i call. i think the only hands that beat you here are 67/78 and raising only folds out the ones you beat.

mookboi · #6 08-29-2007, 04:56 PM

Call, no way I'm folding for this much.

DopamineRelease · #7 08-29-2007, 06:17 PM

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He's pretty passive... could this be some sort of blocking bet with AQ, KQ? if he had 99,55, Q9Ss, you'd think he'd c/r the turn?

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Yes, I think he would c/r the turn with a set or 2 pr. Thats why I was so confused by his river bet. I never considered folding this so I just called.

DopamineRelease · #8 08-29-2007, 06:20 PM

My other reason for this post is to ask you guys what you would have done if he c/r the flop or c/c the flop and c/r the turn. I think if he c/r the turn then its a fold. Also, what if he c/c flop and turn then c/r ai on the river? I always seem to overplay big pairs...

mookboi · #9 08-29-2007, 06:26 PM

Fold to turn & river CRAI.

As for the flop.. eh... I 3bet.

Student Caine · #10 08-29-2007, 06:44 PM

Grunch:

Preflop: Is there a specific reason you do not raise to 4xBB here? Are you trying to keep him sucked in to the hand at the expense of the 15 cents?

Flop: I think you're right...I like a bet in the 3/4-Pot range here

Turn: Standard

River: Wow...tough spot...he ~3/4 donks into us. The 6 is a scare card, maybe he is trying to push us off of our TP with it - the turn does help us in that it counterfeits a poorly played two pair.

A set/two pair seems unlikely as they probably would have raised the turn. 87 also seems unlikely and also would have probably raised the turn. I do not see a Queen betting like this, so the only thing that we could be up against is a pure bluff.

I hate to fold this, but I do not see how we can call. But I really, really hate to fold this haha.

After thinking this through I probably fold as i have no clue what he was drawing to that bluffs the river. I can guarantee you that if I were playing this with the 30 second timer, I would not have had enough time to convince myself to lay it down.