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Old 08-27-2007, 01:10 AM
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Default pushing on bubble with KJs. +EV ??

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1600, 75 ante (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP2 (t3560)
MP3 (t2783)
CO (t5435)
Button (t4885)
SB (t9055)
BB (t20965)
UTG (t5234)
UTG+1 (t4948)
MP1 (t10635)

Preflop:
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t5360</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t3760.

Hero is in CO with KdJd.

Stars 45 player sng FT, 7 spots pay. With an M ~2 and 2 short stacks to take the blinds, do I wait or make a move? What is my minimum hand to push? How does the bb being a big stack change my pushing range? Unfortunately, the FT just started, and bb was moved in, so no read on his calling range.
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: pushing on bubble with KJs. +EV ??

what are the payouts?
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Old 08-27-2007, 01:30 AM
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easy easy easy easy easy push. 100% of the time.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:32 AM
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Default Re: pushing on bubble with KJs. +EV ??

i don't know how you can NOT push there.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:33 AM
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Default Re: pushing on bubble with KJs. +EV ??

M ~2, unraised pot, face cards, LP ---&gt; easy shove.

you don't want to play for 7th,6th place because the payouts suck.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: pushing on bubble with KJs. +EV ??

as i suppose you go for 1st place in this tourney this is an easy push.

my range from cutoff would be any PP, any Ace, K9+, QT+, JT or something similar.

just typed it into the the sng-wizard, and here your pushing range is top 51,1% of all cards:

33+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J3s+,T5s+,95s+,85s+,75s+,65s,A2 o+,K4o+,Q6o+,J7o+,T7o+,98o,87o
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Old 08-27-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: pushing on bubble with KJs. +EV ??

Thx all. Those were pretty much my thoughts as well. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:12 PM
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Min-raise and fold to a push.
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Old 08-27-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: pushing on bubble with KJs. +EV ??

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Min-raise and fold to a push.

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Oh dear god what horrendous advice.

This is truly horrific.

Its an instapush and dont look back. Yes its +EV to push KJs from this spot with this stack.

Min raise and fold to a push.. thats hilarious. Lets put over half our stack in and then fold when were getting odds to call against a face up premium pair. Nice Advice.

The range above isnt too bad, although the calling ranges he used are perhaps too tight. I personally would push from CO here with 3.5BB -&gt; all Pairs, All aces, all suited Kings, And any two cards both 9 or above, all SC 54+

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Old 08-27-2007, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: pushing on bubble with KJs. +EV ??

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Min-raise and fold to a push.

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Oh dear god what horrendous advice.

This is truly horrific.

Its an instapush and dont look back. Yes its +EV to push KJs from this spot with this stack.

Min raise and fold to a push.. thats hilarious. Lets put over half our stack in and then fold when were getting odds to call against a face up premium pair. Nice Advice.

The range above isnt too bad, although the calling ranges he used are perhaps too tight. I personally would push from CO here with 3.5BB -&gt; all Pairs, All aces, all suited Kings, And any two cards both 9 or above, all SC 54+

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lol leveled
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