river checkraise premier

[shaundeeb]

villian is premier longtime winning tag for those who don't know. This was from the morning 150 I don't think he knows I am me.

Full Tilt Poker Game #3381459566: $32,000 Guarantee (25608445), Table 19 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 16:15:48 ET - 2007/08/27
Seat 1: kcjohnwayne (3,640)
Seat 2: tedsfishfry (5,960)
Seat 3: aspenskibum (4,710)
Seat 4: CKruel (720)
Seat 5: lvlarshy (6,240)
Seat 6: berycticoz (2,010)
Seat 7: Dr_Bait (7,718)
Seat 8: ATM808 (9,965)
Seat 9: Premier (5,905)
berycticoz posts the small blind of 40
Dr_Bait posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tedsfishfry [Th Ts]
ATM808 folds
Premier has 15 seconds left to act
Premier raises to 240
kcjohnwayne folds
tedsfishfry has 15 seconds left to act
tedsfishfry calls 240
aspenskibum folds
CKruel folds
lvlarshy folds
berycticoz folds
Dr_Bait folds
*** FLOP *** [2c 8s Ks]
Premier has 15 seconds left to act
Premier checks
tedsfishfry checks
*** TURN *** [2c 8s Ks] [3h]
Premier checks
tedsfishfry bets 320
Premier calls 320
*** RIVER *** [2c 8s Ks 3h] [7d]
Premier checks
tedsfishfry bets 720
Premier has 15 seconds left to act
Premier raises to 3,000
tedsfishfry calls 2,280

[ZJ123]

77 or air? I think with a big hand on turn, he either raises or bets. Does he really bluff a "random" here?

[Bakes]

you lose if your unknown

[EC10]

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you lose if your unknown

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ya also your turn bet sizing sucks

[adanthar]

premier's not that tag and doesn't take smaller donkaments seriously at all (I'm not sure if this counts as 'smaller' to him though)

I'm kinda tempted to check the river, unless you're setting this up

[shaundeeb]

really on stars and ftp I have him as like 12/6 and 13/8 thats really tag to me.

[shaundeeb]

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you lose if your unknown

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ya also your turn bet sizing sucks

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why I am 80% sure I have best hand he def doesn't have a fd so he has at best 6 outs yes he could be c/c JJ/QQ but that's only part of his range.

[adanthar]

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really on stars and ftp I have him as like 12/6 and 13/8 thats really tag to me.

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yeah but go into PT and check out some of his hands. you'll be surprised. all I'm really saying is, if he's not autopiloting, his hand range here is not the usual one.

[shaundeeb]

no I know he's capable of a lot which is what led me to calling here. He prob doesn't expect an unknown to call with 1 pair and thats what an unknown has like 95% of the time here

[the alex]

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no I know he's capable of a lot which is what led me to calling here. He prob doesn't expect an unknown to call with 1 pair and thats what an unknown has like 95% of the time here

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This was my thought and your played the hand representing exactly what you have. I think he's c/c'ing or a JJ/QQ type of hand and I think he's CB'ing a 77-99 type of hand against a random. Also, he seems to figure himself WA/WB too much to make a delayed CB to that turn.

The way this is played out, I don't see him expecting a King, so against a random, I don't see him expecting a call. If you have a set, good for you.