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Old 08-26-2007, 08:42 AM
alexDJI alexDJI is offline
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Default 10NL: Overpair facing turn shove

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.05/$0.10 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $4.50
BB: $7.90
UTG: $9.85
MP: $4.70
Hero (CO): $27.85
BTN: $10.25

Preflop: Hero is dealt (6 Players)
UTG folds, MP calls $0.10, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.50</font>, BTN calls $0.50, 2 folds, MP calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.65) (3 Players)
MP checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.60</font>, BTN folds, MP calls $1.60

Turn: ($4.85) (2 Players)
<font color="red">MP bets all-in for $2.60</font>, Hero ???

Villain hasnt played a hand that went to show down and played pretty tight. He seemed passive though.
It looks like a draw that hit, or an overpair, or a combo draw to me. I really like my hand and think I have to call, but I'm not really sure.
Comments on PF and flop are welcome.
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Old 08-26-2007, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: 10NL: Overpair facing turn shove

I instacall. well played.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:25 AM
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Default Re: 10NL: Overpair facing turn shove

I doubt calling's the right move - especially if the dude's been really tight. He knows you have some sort of hand, why would he go all in if he can't beat 9s? Especially because he's passive. The reason passive players are passive is because they want to "save" money by not betting when they might not have the best hand. So why would he go all in on the turn with 8 high if he knows you might have him outkicked or have a high pocket pair?

Likely possibilities are a completed straight and two pair 86. I think you're down more than 2/3 the time, so calling would be -ev.

Then again I play at these micros and I can see firsthand how dumb players here can be. Sometimes thinking is counterproductive here so whatever and use ur best judgment.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: 10NL: Overpair facing turn shove

Yeah I know that at these stakes, players are capable of very stupid moves, that's why I think I have to call here because my hand is going to be good a lot more often.
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Old 08-26-2007, 09:42 AM
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Default Re: 10NL: Overpair facing turn shove

Villain could have Axsuited here or AK/AQ/AJ/A10 a lot of times so that might make a call worthwile. You really don't know sometimes with NL10, some people call big raises with all kinds or rubbish.
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Old 08-26-2007, 10:53 AM
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Default Re: 10NL: Overpair facing turn shove

If his range is only the hands that hit it good and somehow fit how it went down:
Board: 8s 2c 7c 6h
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 23.611% 23.23% 00.38% 184 3.00 { 9d9s }
Hand 1: 76.389% 76.01% 00.38% 602 3.00 { 88-66, 22, T9s, 87s, 76s }

So you have 23.611% equity and you're offered 7.45:2.6 or about 2.87:1.
Now factor in that he can have all sorts of other hands and it's a pretty easy call.
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Old 08-26-2007, 01:24 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: Overpair facing turn shove

TPTK no good
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Old 08-26-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: 10NL: Overpair facing turn shove

*grunch* I play this exactly the same and getting something like 3-1 with so many outs plus the chance that you're ahead, this is an easy call for me.
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