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Old 08-24-2007, 02:12 PM
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Default CAZ 40-80 Hand 3

Middle of the day, mostly regulars.

UTG raises. He is very solid, aggressive, smart player whom I respect. UTG+1 3-bets (this is an unthinking LAG who will 3bet a large range of hands).

I am in the BB with 99.

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Old 08-24-2007, 02:16 PM
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Default Re: CAZ 40-80 Hand 3

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Old 08-24-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: CAZ 40-80 Hand 3

I turbo fold unless they'll both give you a sick amount of action post-flop if you hit.
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:42 PM
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Default Re: CAZ 40-80 Hand 3

The UTG will play solid and not get crazy/out of line. The UTG+1 will bet/raise an unimproved pair of deuces or A-rag the same way as if he had AA the whole way.

I ended up flat-calling, although I debated capping.

Flop: Td4c2h.

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Old 08-24-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: CAZ 40-80 Hand 3

check, hopefully raise UTG+1 and get it heads up.
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Old 08-24-2007, 02:54 PM
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Default Re: CAZ 40-80 Hand 3

Preflop depends on what range of hands you put UTG on. Does he have very tight raising standards meaning he has A big pair or AK...or will he raise with mid pocket pairs, KQ, KJs, A9s, etc. If he has the looser range I would call(I think I would prefer to see if he caps here rather than capping myself. If he has the tight range I fold. If this was more of a steal situation I would cap(Assuming the players entered from late position).

As played, I would check-raise and try to isolate myself against UTG+1 or find out pretty quick where you stand against UTG. If you do get heads up against UTG+1 plan on going to showdown.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:11 PM
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I called primarily to see if UTG would cap; he didn't.

I did lead out on the flop to put the most pressure on UTG and to see if he raised, and if so, if UTG+1/semi-maniac 3-bet it.

So action on flop is I bet, UTG calls, as expected maniac raises, and I 3-bet it (as planned). UTG folded JJ face-up, UTG+1 capped it, I called and went into check-call mode.

Interestingly, and unfortunately, another player in the hand at this point said "Bad fold" to the UTG player and pointed at me and said "Ace-ten" and to the UTG+1 said "pocket nines". I tried not to react...

Turn and river were basically blanks (I think it was a 7 and maybe another 4, all rainbow.).
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:19 PM
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Default Re: CAZ 40-80 Hand 3

The UTG played his hand very bad. Why didn't he raise your flop bet? Ironically, I think the fact that you bet and three bet showed more strength than simply check-raising the UTG+1. Either way he made a bad fold but I think he would have been less likely to fold if you check-raised thinking you are just isolating and protecting your hand wheras betting out looks like you are betting for value.

I would have capped the betting preflop if I was UTG given the UTG+1 read and your smooth call.
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Old 08-24-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: CAZ 40-80 Hand 3

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UTG folded JJ face-up

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wowowowow. abuse this man.
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Old 08-25-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: CAZ 40-80 Hand 3

Forgot to post results:

After check-calling the turn and river, maniac says "nice hand" and turns over 88. After turning over my 99, the UTG/JJ guy got up and moved his seat.

I was pretty sure he was going to look me up the next few hands we played and I adjusted accordingly.
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